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Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 20 Jun 2024 22:54
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 20 Jun 2024 22:54
Https://www.minister.industry.gov.au/ministers/king/media-releases/australias-future-gas-strategy#:~:text=Minister%20for%20Resources%20and%20Northern,on%20the%20best%20possible%20information.
TG history is gas success, so for goodness sake talk about gas and its merits and its problems. Lets see what the aussies are saying about the future of gas (in a mature economy, with massive woke sheep) in the net zero transition.
The Strategy is centred on six principles that will underpin government policy on gas.
Australia is committed to supporting global emissions reductions to reduce the impacts of climate change and will reach net zero emissions by 2050.
- Gas must remain affordable for Australian users throughout the transition to net zero.
- New sources of gas supply are needed to meet demand during the economy-wide transition.
- Reliable gas supply will gradually and inevitably support a shift towards higher-value and non-substitutable gas uses.
- Households will continue to have a choice over how their energy needs are met.
- Gas and electricity markets must adapt to remain fit for purpose throughout the energy transformation.
- Australia is, and will remain, a reliable trading partner for energy, including LNG and low emission gases.
Started: BradSmith, 20 Jun 2024 20:04
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 20 Jun 2024 22:32
WTF is the RUBBISH !!
Took her on the bus to get my prescription from the GP.
Boots the chemist were closed for an hour for lunch.
How much are retailers struggling if Boots cannot afford to keep their shops open?
Took just over an hour to travel 2 miles there as the crow flies - and back. Buses go around the houses but the walk is up hill and down dale - Poppy would be ok but too strenuous for me.
Started: BradSmith, 20 Jun 2024 06:12
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 20 Jun 2024 10:22
Great - then if you have both filtered me, stop talking about me !! Do you think that is possible?
I can no longer read Bot’s drivel ..it’s a wonder he ever leaves his house for fear of being hit by a meteorite or falling down a sink hole. He is now filtered ……
Go and watch CBBC and learn something useful TO YOU. We all have to start somewhere, and you've a limited choice. The one times table?
Started: oldbutnowisa, 19 Jun 2024 10:09
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 19 Jun 2024 23:48
Just for you Olda. My sense is most here think that Tlou achieves Holy Grail with grid connection since that opens up their ability to generate and sell pretty much unlimited electricity across the SAPP. Agree ?
Kenmare did a consolidation , and I think BOTS stopped posting there , so presumably got out or was pushed out?
Might explain why he is obsessed with TLOU's 1.25bn shares that he exaggerates at every opportunity.
Don't share you view on the ovt/BPC though olda.
We are in a PPA that we will honour for 2MW or 3MW. The up to 10MW may available for export to SA , but TG will stick with BPC imho.
BPC will be buying and selling on for a profit via the Grid - so I do not worry they'll renenge on payments.
It would not make sense! Rumours of them not paying are possible if they are buying at $40 and selling at $12.
TG won't be asking anywhere near $40 , and BPC will be able to afford our price for certain imho!
Beyond 3Mw (or 10MW) TLOU may well sell to the highest bidder , TG knows what he is doing, that plan was in his mind many years ago. It was a ploy to get the Govt onside in those days. Nowadays everybody is in limbo waiting for TLOU to produce the goods with little support from the Govt.
One we light Massisi's office with our electricity, I expect the Govt to start finding the cash to accelerate production at Lesedi as it will be unquestionably proven to achieve future plans.
......we get as far as producing electricity, bearing in mind that everything Bots are uncreditworthy, my assumption is that we will be selling not to the Gov't but to South Africa, even if that involves us in howls from Bots and probable litigation.
Bearing in mind the time it takes to go through the court system I don't think Tony will be too worried about that although small shareholders might be! For now I am confident the lights will stay on until the end year report in September. Hopefully we might be very close to first production by then.
My hunch is that Tony will then announce a share consolidation (10 for 1?) possibly sweetened by a free attaching warrant. Lots of luck to all other long-suffering holders here!
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 19 Jun 2024 22:26
Unless you beleive that once Tlou connects to the grid, they have reached their Holy Grail. And everyone will finally become true beleivers again and rush to watch TG part the red sea, divine enormous amounts of money out of an insolvent BPC, scale up to 50 or 100MW power generation in record quick time, with no further need for equity issues to raise cash, and be a key partner and totally central to the Govt of Botswana/Ministry /BPC being able to export power across the SAPP - look out Nvidia, Microsoft, FB, Tesla, BHP and RioT - TG will then be on a hat-trick and on a countdown to world electricity domination.
At least BTS is forcing himself, however hurtful that is to himself and maybe his ego, thinking ahead and realising he will be lucky to get out of Tlou with his money intact. After 10 years of trying. After 5 plus years into his retirement.
When i wonder will the penny drop for others.
£8k worth of SELLS can knock 9.5% off your Share Price.
I dont think it will be easy to sell my shares even if we ever get good news.
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 19 Jun 2024 12:39
Last post: smallfishbigpond, 19 Jun 2024 14:49
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1. He filters, unfilters, repeat cycle repeatedly - then comments on what he thinks I have posted. Stupid.
2. Comments on my previous investments which he knows nothing about and how they may have /have not performed and criticised them - having told us about Sirus or heaven knows who. Weird.
3. Says a message board is for discussing a stock and complains there is no discussion here. And to promote discussion, likes to post about his personal life and health. Bizarre and just not the forum.
4.... thats enough for now. I cant really be bothered with such strangeness.
Started: clueless99, 16 Jun 2024 19:12
Last post: smallfishbigpond, 19 Jun 2024 10:00
LOOK OUT
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As I look at the green post at the top of the posts on this page , I cannot help wondering who it is the target?
They never request opinions from the inferior posters because the author , in his own head , knows everything TLOU better than us all and even the CEO and the board?
So they are not here to generate conversation , or seek opinion or knowledge , so why are they here?
What was the volume you saw? London Stock Exchange reported 32,000 shares traded so i assume you see a significantly different figure.
Very strange buying pattern s today !
"In short, this current fund raise from sources in Botswana is by no means going to be easy to arrange".
BOTS_PROJECT 28th Feb 2024
"Botswana Public Officers Pension Fund (BPOPF) have increased their shareholding to 16.63%"
TLOU RNS 26th March 2024
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 16 Jun 2024 19:00
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 16 Jun 2024 19:00
Sept 2023: Separately, work on the substations which are required at either end of the transmission line is also continuing. The contractors are onsite at Lesedi carrying out initial work including site clearing and further updates will be provided in due course.
February 2024: The Lesedi substation, which will connect Tlou's power generators to the transmission line, is approximately 38% complete. Installation of the earth mat is complete with the control room currently being constructed.
26 April 2024: The substation at Lesedi has being designed to facilitate expansion beyond 10MW which will be beneficial as the projects grows. The Lesedi substation is approximately 50% complete. It is currently anticipated that this work will be completed in Q3 2024.
Started: smallfishbigpond, 12 Jun 2024 20:56
Last post: smallfishbigpond, 14 Jun 2024 16:15
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What a good idea Winni. I wonder why all the companies currently owed billions haven't thought on that yet.
Bots have you ever heard of debt factoring ( selling your debt on ) i'd be surprised if there aren't companies offering that service in Botswana.. if not may be something you could do from Doncaster? make a fortunes
I'll be disappointed if the substations are not complete by now. I'd hope the generators are ordered and being delivered or even being commissioned. I cannot believe how quickly time flies I have not seen my daughter or grand kids for 6 years come October 10th (Liz's funeral). I have postponed making a legal will but it is time to bite the bullet to make sure the house, TLOU shares and Liz's savings go where they are deserved.
I thought my daughter loved Poppy and would want her if I departed. My youngest son bought her and will hopefully want to look after her. She is 13 a week today - and is still very active for her age but the day will come where she needs vet bills to survive.
Good to see TB is still around , but nobody with a brain will sell up now surely? Off with my shopping trolley on the bus to Poole for a haircut and some food and drink. It will be quite heavy with the latter I expect and might need a second trip soon. Not had another black out since those 2 on May 11th so 5 months before I can forget the buses?
Cheers Thornback. 👍👍
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 13 Jun 2024 10:21
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 13 Jun 2024 10:21
Suppliers owed billions because issues go back a long way;
Businesses in cash flow problems due to delayed payments;
GABS = Government Accounting and Budget Syatems;
Minister of Finance acknowledged before Parliament that Govt is facing serious crisis due to inefficiencies in payment systems;
System became excessively slow to the point it failed to process normal operational requests such as ....processing payment vouchers and general updating of the accounts payable modules (unbelievable - Govt saying its own accounting system is so carp it cannot process a Creditors ledger);
These challenges have severely affected financial transactions, especially payments to suppliers of goods and services and the printing of annual tax certificates;
The Govt promise of resolving these issues seems to be moving at a glacial pace while many of us are struggling to keep our businesses afloat;
It is critical these problems are addressed urgently to restore confidence and stability in our commercial activities;
There you go TG. Giving you and your erstwhile CFO the Heads Up that BPC are going to pay you super slowly for the electricity sold to them - so hopefully you can come up with a Plan. Just in case you didn't already know, BPC are one of the biggest culprits !
Started: smallfishbigpond, 12 Jun 2024 21:01
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 12 Jun 2024 22:33
Come on Smallfish - how is it that I am a paid influencer engaged by someone to kybosh Tlou ?
You and Olda both said it - so come on, here is your chance to explain it.
As for being doomed - you might actually be right for a change.
I’m cashing in cos we’re all doooooomed.
Dooooooomed ah tell ya.
Run fer yer lives it’s all going apocalyptic …………
Oh, wait a minute. It’s just BOTS BULL 💩💩💩 again.
Phew, …….. 😂😂😂
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 12 Jun 2024 19:00
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 12 Jun 2024 20:56
Another one on the hook.
And your point is? Would you like us all to sell? Everybody accepts losses, its part of investing. If TLOU goes bust so be it. I made a heap with Sunshine Gas and TG so nothing you say really matters does it.
Brad likes to remind us frequently that TG said this about Botswana coals back in early days. Well I wonder if they are. I wonder if this is another of his early day assertions that he basically spun to motivate interest in investment. The reality is Botswana coals are not particularly deep so they have not be subjected to the more intense pressures that Amercian and other large scale coal fields and CBM fields have been shaped by for millenia.
https://www.mmegi.bw/business/chinese-refiner-warns-bol-against-ctl-investment/news
This Coal to Liquids project has been talked about in Bots for over a decade. 2 parties that I know if have participated in the RFP for this PPP project. They are waiting to hear the outcome - sound familiar. And now the Chinese, who know a thing or two about CBM fileds are saying Dont do it becasue the coals are of poor quality ie too loose, too wet, too not hard enough to burn sufficiently hot enough to make the process work EFFICIENTLY. The cost to dry /embellish the coals makes the project unviable.
Never mind any of that - Govt is pretending it is considering increasing its investment in De Beers (increasing from the current 15%). That is going to cost a lot - money they dont have. The country is on course in 2024 to report its biggest ever Budget Deficit - and diamonds revenues are near 50% down in Qtr 1 2024. Disaster is looming; Drought has been one of the worst ever. Money to invest in De Beers or in a PPP coal to liquids project - Zero chance of this happening.
Idiots here do not seem to appreciate the significance of the coutnry being the size of France or Texas. With 2m people, half of whom live in poverty or not far removed from poverty. The economy is small. It doesnt even have a property boom. Diamonds are the number 1 source of revenue - and that is going through the floor. And elections are to be held October. There are only so many sticking plasters you can apply to a patient; and they will only last for so long.
Tlou is going to connect to the grid - maybe - soon. Then it can say it is an IPP. - terrific. Then TG can start the much needed PR about the opportunity in Botswana and SAPP ahead, Great. All the power that Tlou can produce still needs the consent of Govt and BPC to use their distribution grid. Do NOT FOR 1 SECOND think that Govt and BPC will let Tlou use that network at low cost. They will demand several pounds of flesh; and Tlou will have NO OPTION but to pay up. Coz if they dont, then sit back and wait for Xmas 2025 .......
Honestly I feel sorry for you clowns invested in Tlou - you really have Zero idea what you let yourselves in for !!!!
Started: oldbutnowisa, 11 Jun 2024 08:18
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 12 Jun 2024 18:45
still waiting for olda and smallfish to tell me / us how i can make money being a paid influencer. they wont be able to - which is yet another shoot from the hip post by so many cheerleaders here. you are all so desperate for your failed investment to turnaround, come good, show meaningful progress - and you are all blinkered from the reality that your made your call and you got it wrong. one billion shares in issue changes the dynamic of any company - yet you idiots all continued to say that didnt matter. ffs how stupid can you really be !!
as for nobody agreeing with me - well whizzer and bythesea both criticise the management team. they may be more polite than my posts but the 3 of us are saying the same thing. this stock is a total dog; and when they connect to the grid - how much more time, how much more money, how many more shares are all needed to make it a commercial venture.
when can you all admit it??!! there was a story spun way back by tg and team - the last one i attended was the friday pm meeting in london when tg preened like a pea**** and make assertions and innuendo about what the fantastic opportunity tlou in botswana was. and he has not made any of it come to pass in a time frame and cost profile that is in any way acceptable for a well run company. he has stuck at it so fair play to him for that. but i suspect he is only doing that to avoid multiple law suits from multiple early stage investors.
question for you all - why is it you only want to talk about me and my posts. after so many years, how many of you have posted positive things about the company achievements in recent times ....
I have been invested here for so many years I don't even understand my own loyalty. Share market cycles have come and gone and ROE still a negative number. I own in a SIPP and today finger over the sell button but should I? None the wiser from looking at LSE posts but in admiration for those with positivity. Emotional decisions are usually disastrous and knowing the price will sky rocket if I sold I wait. The last of the poles....the reserves and all, TG just bring it over the line. God knows the country and its' neighbours need you and my patience deserves a payout!!
It may look like I have the same ambition - being the focal point.
But, I get annoyed when I log in here and there is repeatedly no news or posts!
All my my twaddle is a vain attempt to generate some chat between us.
I have found in life that many a true word is spoken in jest. Was Newton there when the apple fell and he developed his ideas about gravity? Or did he hear about an apple falling on someone's head or summat - and he took it from there? Perhaps William Tell shot the apple before it landed on the boy?
If everyone filtered him out - there would be no replies
It is ADHD - he has to be the focal point and here he found an audience that allowed him to get away with it.
I struggle to think what he has brought to this board that was of any value.
For me, it was news that TLOU were liable for royalties to KE/Seka once we bought them out.
12.5% and/or 3% of the profits for Gas or/and Electricity sold from Selemo (cannot temember which was which).
They were clearly aware that we intended to sell GAS , but the Gas could generate Electricity , so they covered themselves either way. TG successed generated electricity where they had failed dismally - and probably read Donkey on ADVFN saying what he says AND THEY BELIEVED HIM!!
It was true - but the royalty was purely for the Selemo plot, so TLOU switched to a royalty free zone i.e. Lesedi, and ky-boshed KE/Seka by not selling gas or electricity so no royalties due! Instead, TLOU generated onsite electricity fro Selemo and saved buying 50k litres of Diesel to do the same!
They also proved that Orapa ,who have duel fuel generators , could switch to gas too!! A future project once we can finance it ourselves or Orapa get grants/loans to pay us.
TG is one person's fool - but he is actually nobody's fool - cos the oddball is irrelevant.
Has anyone found out how block replies to BOTS_PROJECTS posts?
Started: BradSmith, 11 Jun 2024 08:47
Last post: smallfishbigpond, 11 Jun 2024 18:44
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Funny Brad.
Maybe if TG feeds the elephants beans and eggs he can get them to fart into a tube and collect methane that way? Would save a fortune on drilling. 👍👍😂😂
I forgot to mention the final straw for me!
Does anybody believe that gas will flow faster in a confined space under massive pressure BETTER than in a low pressure environment? CBM is escaping into the atmosphere everywhere , stopping it is a major problem!
In other words will air be more likely to?
a) be breathed in by a pair or lungs from a new born baby
b) blow up car tyres by entering valves of its own accord?
I find it incredible that a moron can spend so much time on here AND DOES NOT REALISE WE ARE DRILLING CHANNELS THROUGH THE COAL TO RELIEVE PRESSURE SO THAT GAS WILL FLOW???
Perhaps he thinks TG chose Botswana because of all its elephants (TLOUS) that can stand on Lesedi soil and squeeze the gas out of the coal 450m+ below??? His idiocy is boundless!
He has achieved his goal - while everyone awaits news from TLOU that 2024 is now supplying the National Grid with power - this site has been taken over by the biggest dope ever.
He killed ADVFN and he has reduced these pages to a self congratulatory monologue.
He is basically nuts! And stupid!
250m is pure fantasy!!! Lower Moripule seam is 450m down - critically above 400m is depth where horizontal drills become most cost effective. Another triumph for TG over the clown who wanted us to rely on Vertical drills that have 6m of coal to draw gas from! Horizontal drills expose up to 750m of coal seam?
I bought in here expecting TG to produce gas cylinders full of CBM within 18 months!
The average home in Botswana would be reduced to gas mantle lights and calor gas containers to manage?
TLOU would become a UBER lorry fleet to deliver full and collect empty cylinders!
Those 18 months were replaced by new RFP being reworded to the satisfaction of the Govt and Seka - a waste of time for TLOU! BUT TLOU ENDED UP WITH PLANS FOR A TURN-KEY POWER SUPPLY , 100KM OF TX LINES , SOLAR ENERGY , a pipeline to Orapa , and an outside chance of HYDROGEN.
They present quite a challenge for a start up company and many of us woud not have invested out life savings in such a project. Unbelievable the share price reached 17p for the Calor Gas project , and is 2p for the Power House plans which is a few months from first revenues. That is as nuts as the filtered nutter!
How TG has kept this project on budget for so long , without help from the Govt , shareholders or anyone other than the Pesnsion Fund and the Doc , is testimony to what a great man he is! He has become a recluse , beavering away for our benefit as he always promised to do! The guys that matter are well onside and are far from being nuts imho!
The share price of 2p is doomed - new shareholders worldwide will soon be getting notice from their 1p shares advisors (Motley Fool types) and a sensible price will be restored. Will 17p be achieved? It ought to but 11p will do to bring a smile to the Pension Fund managers!!!
Started: smallfishbigpond, 11 Jun 2024 07:59
Last post: smallfishbigpond, 11 Jun 2024 07:59
There is a poster called BOTS
For Tlou, he doesn’t have the hots
He's been here for years
Reducing posters to tears
Throwing his teddy out the cot
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Started: BradSmith, 7 Jun 2024 13:36
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 11 Jun 2024 01:40
Jeexz Winni - it really is quite simple. Tlou oversold; over-promised; over pretty much everythinged.
And it would appear the only person prepared to call this as it actually is - is and consistently has been myself. Tell me, honestly and truly are you going to defend the progress and milestones achieved here against what they said / strategised more than 10 years ago?
Are you really bracketing yourself in the same space as eg Brad, who cannot get past the TG previous comment that in his opinion, Botswana coal seams were the best he had ever seen ...... Coal seams that are 250m to maybe at most (if we re lucky) 400m at depth for it doesnt really matter how many millenia under pressure. The reality is Botswana coals do NOT have huge weight above them in terms of basalt of heavy weight (thereby forcing compaction) on the pretty shallow coal seams.
Idiots like Brad that claim, for no reason other than TG said it, that Botswana coal seams are the best he has ever seen ...... For goodness sake man - stop and think and question and interrogate ......
Or maybe you are just a lazy twat who much prefers to just keep telling me I know zippetedy-doodah, zippetedy-deeeeh. This latter option is of curse the path of least resistance to those 'cheerleaders' and 'believers' that Botswana (being the true cradle of mankind) is going to be the 'investment' that lights up their portfolios ....
I FOR SURE know you and many others (regardless of how hard you care to deny) thought Tlou was going to make easy short term money. And then - to make money sometime soon. As opposed to now where - if you guys (including me) are happy to get cost of your investment back - that is something you would all grab and say Muchas Gracias ....
PS - I know you know that I am way more right here that 9 out of 10 idiotic punters .... Most of who DO NOT POST here any more. I rest my case xxxx
Bots it ‘s not about defending anything …but you still haven’t explained why you have spent so long trying to undermine Tlou on any chat board that will have you. To as you say, peeople that don’t listen to you? 13 years or so and counting! And you think I’ve lost my mine ……
And maybe you (and Brad) should ask yourself why it is so important to you to keep trying to tell me I am so misguided .....
Because ...... drum roll ...... believe it or not ...... the weight of evidence is pretty hugely stacked on my side of the scales. I guess you just keep missing this as month, quarter, half year, full year keeps slipping by .....
Unless of course you, as a shareholder are happy with puss poor price performance..... Which it seems you are.
No surprise there bot's.... You really need to ask yourself why you have spent the last 11 years or so trying to prove you are right in every way. and TG and Tlou are so wrong ...... no one in their right mind would spend all this time and effort doing that. So losing my mind may be i have ....But for you what's your story
Well i suppose i am calling the pot something - what do you guys call Tlou?
No idea why you would think my posts are more desperate Winni; Pretty sure I have been consistent for how many years now? It was a start up in 2009 when it first established in Botswana; now it is 2024 - 15 years later. Go figure that.
'I need to look at the bigger picture' - Seriously? You are saying that to me, about me. I think you have lost the plot completely mate. Along with Brad. You simply do not seem capable of acknowledging the problems here - why is that.
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 10 Jun 2024 21:27
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 10 Jun 2024 21:27
Cheerleaders - when do you think it is time for you to reconsider that all your positivity, endorsement, support of Tlou and TG might actually be misguided? I think I have been doing you all a disservice in recent times, in that the more i keep posting reasons Why Tlou is not the 'spectacular' investment opportunity you all seem to think it is, the more you focus on me - because sub-consciously you cannot bear to accept that your own investment thesis here was Wrong.
I think really you all need to take a time out and do some reflection.
15 years and counting. 10 times more shares in issue that when you first bought in. Spent quite a few million aussie dollars just to prove a concept that CBM works and can inject 2MW of gas to power generation.
The bit I simply cannot wrap my head around is how / why you all continue to defend an Executive and Non-Executive management team (that you ALL bigged up in 2017 and 2018) as being the people to deliver this project opportunity. When are you going to actually reflect that ...... they have spun you a crock of baloney ,,,,,,
Started: free, 9 Jun 2024 19:50
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 10 Jun 2024 11:22
Share price never changes either. Would have thought with all the good and great news and progress there would be some movement or interest there. I guess TG and CC have a cunning plan for that as well. Difficult not to be on track - especially given how slowly we move along the track.
Looking forward to news from the company, let's hope it's all good and on track!
Hope all is well here, noticed some people just don't change around here.
Last post: BradSmith, 10 Jun 2024 08:28
Questionnaire about the future of TLOU.
Which of these statements would have made you HAPPY, Donks?
a) Tlou dissolved during Covid , having run out of funds.
b) Tlou sell out for less than 2p per share to a company with long term plans for CBM , ditto
c) Tlou share price is 2p and expected to rise as they deliver a few Mw to the National Grid in 2024, and plan to expand production in 2025 onwards with the revenues.
d) Add an option or 20 Donks! Kharma , Seka , Massissi , Lefoko , TG , non-payment from Govt/BPC , etc etc etc none of which most of us consider to be a threat.
It is a no brainer for most of us!
You are right about that - you think Tlou and TG has done well. I don't think shareholders should be in the slighest bit happy about the slow progress here.
You think Tlou will scale rapidly into an energy powerhouse once the concept proven. I doubt it - simply because nothing happens fast there.
You think Sekaname are the cause of the delays for CBM. I think CBM are the 'founders' of CBM in Botswana are are what attacted Tlou there. It makes no sense to suggest Sekaname caused delays.
You think every word spoken by TG and team is gospel. I think much of their communications (especially those prior to covid) were often disingenuous and occasionally misleading.
You think number of shares a company has issued is largely irrelevant. I think it is crucial to shareholders making real money (something the Tlou opportunity will never now achieve).
You (and your idiot wingman Cloo) think fund raising is easy just because it gets done. I think the history of failed or poorly subscribed rights issues and lack of options conversions show otherwise.
You think Tlou have been dewatering their wells for years now. I think they have drilled wells that have previously failed which is why they have been dropped from recent communications. Mitchell Drilling are pretty well established there now and very busy apparently with the copper exploration companies.
You think I talk in riddles. I think you simply are not capable of understanding the detail beyond what Prof Google spoon feeds you.
So yes - unlikely we will ever agree. Until of course Tlou does not achieve anywhere near the success you have regularly trumpeted and then you have to admit you was wrong and I was .......
Sorry BOTS - we are merely never on the same wavelength.
You are talking riddles afaiac.
How is dewatering not the be all and end all?
Until it is completed to the point gas flows we remain in limbo!
That is known, at a virgin site, to be potentially years but can be months.
Once the first dewatering reaches that stage, further wells are usually completeld quicker and easier (if they are close enough to the original?).
Nearly all my faith lies in #6 being the ice breaker - things escalated in Lesedi once it was drilled.
We are not ready for peak gas flows , but that day closer week by week!
What you believe , I do not have any idea at all? You seem to suggest there is oceans of water, then deny there is much, and then I am dumbfounded when you seem to say it does not matter anyway???
There is not much of 2024 left - TG will come good shortly for me I hope - I don;t have the time to try and figure out what on earth you are saying or not saying. Clueless has nailed you and you simply accept it? I have nailed you on many occassions and you acceptit without argument. Any idiot can call someone an idiot as you do frequently to anyone who has the nerve to post here!
The so-called disciples are in broad agreement , I am happy with that , my cursor is now stable I fixed my mouse , I thought it was the mouse moving while I was typing, but it is one my chest behaving beautifully. I need to adjust the scrolling and speeds now I understand why it was misbehaving. I have no chance of understanding you, and I am not alone there I am sure, and , sadly, I don't exclude you.
Rather condescending of you Brad to always be thinking just because my view is different to yours that I am always wrong.
Take it from me - dewatering isnt the big drama you have hyped it up to be here. If Tlou wells were producing vast quantities of water, we would be hearing all about it. Why? Because they would have to do something with it. They would want to make it available somehow to the community (at a cost) and we would hear all about it as part of their community engagement efforts.
Oh BOTS , just how silly are you?
Any 50-50 opinion from you is always wrong 0-100.
There is really only two issues with dewatering!
1. As you say, there is an abundance of water flooding out of the coal from an endless reservoir underneath an effing desert! What are the chances of that ? Near 0%?
2. The alternative is that the gas is trapped behind water , and we cannot budge that water fast enough to clear the way for the gas.
a) Slow trickles being replaced by slightly faster trickles to keep the gas trapped inside the coal. 20%
b) The water is remaining in the coals and the coal is too impermeable for the gas and water? 80%
c) A bit of both ? 100%
TLOU are reporting #6 is better than #4 and #4 is better than #3 and #3 is better than #5!
The latter two are temporarily shut off , partly to save money in lockdown, but maybe while tlou learn lessons from #6 and #4. When we return to #3 and #5 they could be improved , as is the normal story , because the dewatered #4 and #6 can benefit the whole area once there are channels are opened up. And their flows will benefit even more!! My hope is #6 is so promising in a short time that TLOU are not worried about it dewatering once they go full tilt at getting the gas out.
Donks , if the water was flowing as easily as you picture it, I think the likelihood is that it would also have gas escaping with it! Our task would be separating the two. If that was so, TG would have told us imho!
Capturing gas out of water is not that difficult. Kids do it the bath with a jam jar if they hear about itat school 😮and have a curious mind. Some see if it is inflammable too?
We see how you brain does not work , so if you are expert in Botswana politics then it is good news for Botswana poilitics. The sad thing is you are not even concious of alternative views .
The reputations of TG and the Botswana Govt are very good - so that means you doubt both?
It is nothing short of madness! People think the earth is not flat - have you heard that rumour yet?
Last post: BradSmith, 8 Jun 2024 10:50
Had fun yesterday - I read I could put my VPN into my internet hub so all my devices would be the same country.
I was logged in to the hub amd the mouse fell off the chair!
It refused to work and I am useless on the touchpad which was ok.
I broke the mouse open to investigate a rattling noise inside it. Thought it was a goner!
Found a wire was loose and it I touched battery terminal with it, the mouse wrked perfectly.
So the cursor was jumping because that connection was dodgy! A bit of solder and it is steadt as a rock.
Two of 3 screws unscrewed and I forced the 3rd out of its hole!!! All 3 screwed back in and the mouse is as good as new. Liz bought it doe many years and computers ago! So I am dead chuffed.
Started: oldbutnowisa, 30 May 2024 18:30
Last post: clueless99, 3 Jun 2024 21:41
Doesn't take much to impress you then BOTS, simple minds and all that 😉... Anyway I'm the only one that actually likes having you here, don't get cheeky to your only fan princess
More quality content from Cloo - that would be 50-plus times he posted the same runny mess. Nappy pants for him then.
As confidently predicted my buys appear as sells!
They are nincompoops to use the mean of the spread as the fulcrum!!!
How often does a trade sell for much more that the required price???? Hardly ever????
So 1.89p sell might achieve 1.9p but sure as hell it won't reach 2.045p ?
But selling , expecting 2.2p from the spread , and achieving 2.024p is highly probably - which is why I use fixed price quotes to stop that!
2.045p is the mean
2024 is the year and I have traded 3 times at 2.024p for frequent trader rates.
Spread was 1.89 to 2.2p so will show as sells because the mean is 2.45p and good old IG beat that by a long way on their fixed price quotes.
Started: BradSmith, 3 Jun 2024 09:47
Last post: BradSmith, 3 Jun 2024 09:47
If anybody told me had told me someone would sing Tomorrow , My Way ,and Over the rainbow and I'd listen to all 3 word by word , I'd have thought they were mad. That is what Sydnie Christmas did on Britains Got Talent 3 times!
I grew up with Shirley Bassey as my superstar singer - not just singing but telling a story with false tears admittedly on her biggest numbers. She has a heir, with added value , in Sydnie Xmas , who took 3 of my least favourite songs and turned them from boring , imho , into emotional tear jerkers!! Every word of the song is given meaning and importance and I cannot imagine what she'd do with the great songs! Paul Anka's opinion of her rendition of My Way is what I want to hear. Sinatra's version was sickly - and Syndnie's version anything but!
To rearrange the songs is one thing - impossible for most I reckon - but to have the voice and range to perform that arrangement is possibly unique??? The clarity of Julie Andrews, drama of Bassey, and musical brain that envisages how the words on huge hits can be improved ...... assuming she does it all herself?
Looking forward to hearing some more arrangements of songs I love to start with. Elton John, Queen , Amy Winehouse , Adele songs? Crescendos are unsuitable for every song unless they are single versions (like BGT) - a whole show of crescendos would be tiring after a few songs, and exhausting to sing. I wonder is the magic is there if she sings the original songs the traditional way?
There are noises about her having appeared in the West End and on Cruise ships - no doubt where she learned to word by word treatment of songs - but thousands will have done that and struggled to live on the odd pay days. Loren Allred who sang "Never Enough" in The Greatest Showman film with an actress miming as Jenny Lind, performed on the show a few years ago but there was no uproar about that. Sid was a deserved winner along with the dog trainer - who was amazing with just a few hours warning she was the wild card! Faultless - and the biggest rival imho. Managing one dog is hard enough - 5 is mind blowing and then look at what they do!!! Genius!
Started: BOTS_PROJECTS, 2 Jun 2024 12:52
Last post: BOTS_PROJECTS, 2 Jun 2024 12:52
Why?
Elections in S Africa showing the ANC are routed so eyes are looking south to see how the power balance shifts. That takes time.
Anglo is restructuring and divesting De Beers business. This is fraught with concern for Debswana and Govt of Bots, given the recent $6 billion USD investment necessary to prolong life of Jwaneng diamond mine. And that is just 1 mine; there is Orapa and a few other smaller kimberlites. When the diamond industry sneezes, Botswana economy is badly affected, meaning budget revenues are reduced meaning bigger budget deficits meaning even less money washing around Govt coffers (after all the usual suspects take out their cuts) meaning BPC and other parastatals will delay payments even more meaning = any good news there is diluted and inconsequential.
And the real reason nothing important gets decided for remainder of this year (and at least Qtr 1 next) - Elections ahead in Botswana in October and already significant bickering over rules and voter registrations. IEC are being called corrupt body by Botswana opposition who clearly are taking the Trump view of being an opposition party (complain about everything.)
Masisi and Moagi are in Las Vegas this week for a diamond jamboree; then they need a week to recover, then electioneering for BDP primaries in mid-June for a month, and yada yada yada.
But the great news ahead to look forward to is - Tlou completing a sub-station construction and maybe injecting 2MW of CBM feedstock electricity. Thats going to change the country, lift the overall mood, get everybody talking, reshape the energy landscape in southern africa for sure.
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Started: oldbutnowisa, 25 May 2024 11:49
Last post: Winnimandala, 30 May 2024 15:59
They don’t need any government input to et to first power they have all they need from the government now ! They will have to deal the a new goverment if that’s what happens when and if it happens .. I sure no government is going to turn their back on such an important project .. unless it’s run by you Bots .. but I think that would be difficult from a bedroom in Bradford ….even for you
I guess you guys have all the answers and logic then. Tell me then why has Botswana proved to be so incredibly challenging for TG and team for so many years. I mean, by your logic, Botswana is a great place, efficient and pretty rich - so should all work swimmingly for all concerned.
Govt payments (which include BPC) is a nightmare there, has been for several years. Budget deficits have been increasing since covid, and now diamonds are well out of flavour. Anglo has announced it is selling De Beers which is a massive deal for Botswana. Elections are in October which is a massive deal for Govt there. We can pretty much write off the rest of the year now as Govt are preoccupied elsewhere yet again.
I cannot remember which year it was, but I shared a ward with an old guy who had spent ll his working life in various parts of Africa. I think he was a hydro-electricity engineer.
He had nothing bad to say about Botswana.
The thing I remembered most was that at one time , the whole indigenous population of Botswana could live off the national wealth / income from diamonds. He was retired so when this was I dunno. He was almost surely in upper management or higher rather than a pick and shovel type. Botswana does not have the watercourses for Hydro , so I doubt he spent much time there workwise. If BPC can make a profit at TG prices , rather than a certain loss of the highest import prices - diamonds will have an ally in the economy to improve it.
Another reason why they'll want TLOU to accelerate production and reduce their reliance on imports?
Speculate to accumulate comes to mind. I'm expecting several years befor Botswana is self sufficient but TLOU will prosper in those years.
I think Bots is forgetting that if Botswana don’t pay their bills. Especially to a foreign company who have invested millions in a project that will ultimately benefit their country . What message does this send out to other potential foreign investment .. that the country is a bad payer and should be avoided … not the look they would want to promote surely !
The veracity of the statement about BPC payments, if true , is likely to be based on foreign countries experience.
South Africa for many years, but with Eskom is no longer the force it was - there are now others.
Eskom could not supply S.A. demand , and only exported to Botswana because they were prepared to pay more , a few carrots more? Eskom took the carrot!
We think BPC are paying up to $30 for the TG unit of power, and it may have reached $40 from a post on here.
I have little doubt that BPC was being ripped off by the supply and demand curve.
Contrast the position we hope to see this year!
TLOU , domestically placed in Botswana , supported by the locals who'll want the jobs they create, and the Govt for various reasons that improve their economy, businesses , and living conditions for the population in general.
Critically , TG has promised to undercut import prices whilst still making more profit than the same electricity would earn in Australia - originally somewhere in the range $12 to $30 per unit - you'd think both will be more now.
The goodwill is clearly likely to be mutual and BPC and Govt will not want to see TLOU struggle to expand until Botswana is self-sufficient on electricity. And if TLOU are compromised there is always the option to deal with SAPP network at a higher price no doubt.
Botswana is proud of its reputation abroad - many countries rate them highly against other African countries.
TG rated them highly in the first place. Current criticism of the Govt is unfair - everybody with an interest in TLOU know we have not reached a start point until the TX line is commissioned and electricity is being delivered to Serowe and the grid.
They are leaving it to TG bring that home in 2024 with respect! Once TG can demonstrate a live service, it will not surprise me if the Govt find money for Grants or Loans to TLOU to speed up the expansions. Until then , we all sit with crossed fingers that TG is still TG from ten years ago! Olda and wiser is my belief!
And , heaven forbid, news of earnings might attract the big boys to look at Botswana and our golden nuggets!
8p is likely by Xmas if TG meets the estimated times. If Serowe is connected to Orapa (don't think it is) the sponsorship from industry on the Botswana grid could follow. 2025 could be interesting - but lets get power to Serowe by Xmas first!
Started: Bythesea, 30 May 2024 15:38
Last post: Bythesea, 30 May 2024 15:38
Ive no idea how long it takes to build these and get them running(someone will I presume) but it seems to be taking an age.
11th Sept we heard they were site clearing for Substations
27th Oct we heard it was 36% complete
24th Jan we hear its 37% complete
23rd Feb its 38%complete a very slow 4 month but the last update on the 26th April it was 50% complete some progress at last.Since then nothing,its about time for some sort of update to get an idea when they will be finished(knowing Tlou it will be next year)and I am sure someone will come along and say you know these things take time.
Good Luck everyone lets hope we are all still alive to(get my money back)see some profits.