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This is Pan. I am still in London. I lost your phone number. My phone crashed again. All numbers lost! I only have the one ending in 1799. You never have it switched on. Give me a call on WhatsApp or a missed call.
�Rumours� again one presumes - and unfounded no doubt - but was never down anywhere near 2% today, range was 3,115p to 3216.5p. ATB, Scfc
This mare needs to be ridden, digg in those spurs
Is going on with shire sp today?down 2% one second and then up 2% the next.
...although the US market opened at 1.30PM today (since this Monday) as their clocks went forward on Sunday. ATB, Scfc
Better still... Email fornskov@shire.com
News at 2:30 that made it nose dive?
If the stock market was a horror movie then shire would be the one that is locked in the basement starved of food with no sunlight and then somebody would unlock the door let a bit of sunlight in and give it a bit of food and just as it was starting to feel better about itself a gang would run in and give it a good kicking before locking the door and then next day repeating the process all over again! I�ve never known anything like this garbage!
Lol... Yes, the lorry idea might just do the trick
Somebody should write that on the side of a big articulated lorry using massive numbers and park it right outside ormskov�s front door!
The SP exactly a year ago was �48.73. What a difference a year can make to one's fortunes or misfortunes in this case.
Flemming Ornskov 192,510 �6,198,822 Susan Kilsby 82,029 �2,641,334 Albert P.L. Stroucken 28,311 �911,614
It�s exactly why i chose that name i wouldn�t trust a broker as far as i could throw them!
haha nice username! yeah, i always take broker ratings and targets with a big pinch of salt...
I think they are talking absolute rubbish tbh.i bought shares in shire last august and all the brokers were saying �strong buy� and yet every single month since, the share price has gone down and now they are nearly 30% lower than they were yet according to societe generale they will rise by an average of over �3.50 a share every month for the next 12 months. That is simply not going to happen which means i�m stuck with this pathetic stock.
Societe Generale obviously believe and they have put it out there for all to see!
Do you honestly think that in 12 months time shire shares will be trading at �75 a share? If they are i will be absolutely delighted but i just don�t see it happening unless there is a takeover. A more realistic figure i would say would be about �43 but we will see.
Well explained and makes you wonder why the market pays no attention to it pricing Shire at not even half of the target price. �30/share valuation for Haemophilia and ADHD businesses alone. The remaining businesses (internal medicine, ophthalmology + others) are basically being priced at zero by the market even though half the profits come from them. Irrational. ************************************************************************************************************************************ Wed, 28th Feb 2018 16:22 (ShareCast News) - Analysts at Societe Generale took a look at biotech company Shire on Wednesday, both execution and communication need to improve for investors to ignore the "thousand cuts" and focus on the payday ahead as it cut its target price by 500p. Societe Generale cut Shire's twelve months target price to 7,500p from 8,000p, saying that rising confidence in the sustainability of its haemophilia and HAE franchises, an exit from its cash generative neuroscience unit or surprise upsides from its Xildra product would help restore faith in the firm. The analysts reiterated their 'buy' rating on Shire. SocGen claimed Shire was poorly valued on consensus estimates due to concerns that its haemophilia and HAE franchises were not sustainable, leaving the firm unable to service its debts without its ADHD products, but its analysts didn't see eye-to-eye with the consensus. "We strongly disagree," said analysts, with its target price still averaging price multiples for forecast earnings from 2018to 2020 of �64 and a discounted cash flow basis of �86, but they trimmed the target price to reflect estimate changes. "Applying the 20x P/E Sanofi paid for Bioverativ would value Shire's haemophilia business at �20/share. We continue to value ADHD at �10/share. "Subtracting this �30 from the current share price implies that the remaining franchises (which account for nearly 50% of group EPS and are all durable, in our view) trade on a low-single-digit 2018e P/E - hardly rational," the report read. http://www.lse.co.uk/sharecast-news-article.asp?ArticleCode=27128382&ArticleHeadline=Shires_haemophilia_unit_is_sustainable_but_Societe_Generale_trims_target_price
Shares of biopharmaceutical company Caladrius Biosciences Inc (NASDAQ:CLBS) are soaring nearly 25% to $6.35 in pre-market trading Tuesday. All of this appears to be a result of CLBS's announcement this morning that it has entered into a definitive agreement with Shire (NASDAQ:SHPG) to acquire a late stage CD34+ cell therapy program for the treatment of chronic myocardial ischemia targeting refractory angina. Valuation-wise, it's hard to say whether CMC is getting a good price on this asset. Under the terms of the agreement, Caladrius acquired the exclusive worldwide rights to the data set and regulatory filings for the CD34+ cell therapy program for the treatment of refractory angina. In exchange, Shire will receive undisclosed up-front consideration, milestones and a royalty on product sales.
Mulder, I almost started to think that there might be something to it when the SP shot up another 100p this morning but the subsequent drop of 80p from that high point brought me back to my senses!
Mulder, yes it was but not someone I would trust implicitly!! Almost certainly the same old rumour circulating last week.
Was the bid rumour you heard on the wkend from a banker/city boy?
Agreed. If your investment is in an ISA or SIPP then I see where you are coming from. But whether it is 'divi income' or still in share price, makes little difference. The share price generally drops by the smae value of the dividend so if you sell 2 days before, your investment is worth more that it would be 2 days later. But 2 days later you also have the divi. So if no tax on divis nor capital gains, you should be indifferent as to whether you get divi or not.
I wouldn�t sell 2 days before dividend day and with a stocks and shares isa i won�t be paying any tax on it either. I know the dividend isn�t great but it�s greater in my pocket than somebody else�s!
Beware, I don't think so. The dividend is tiny (21.5p) so this is unlikely to influence anyone's buying/selling. Also, why would people want a dividend. I would rather buy on the 9th so as not to have a taxable dividend.