Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
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10,9,8.7.6.5,4,3,2,1,... WAIT FOR IT.... LOL
like I said before guys and girls this is a faceless discussion..... no need to use bile... would anyone on here stand and do it face to face........ nah.... BWD..
fruit.same as last night mate.... cant get an argument across so they then call names and bully into submission.
I read his words but I don't give them any weight. Its just bluster. I imagine the likely development will be UK has agreed in principle with a few points needing to be further clarified (Kind way of saying they disagree), and request an extension to end 2019 or some such move. Eu will have a face saving well UK just needs a little more time, but are generally happy. Kick the can down the road.
My take on it is that the conservatives have agreed a deal with Europe they like, but they can't get it through parliment without the other parties. Those parties mostly weren't allowed to input their two pence worth, so these amendments are their way to force the government to let them have their say and changes. Basically it's all a mess, I don't see any easy way forward with so many conflicting views and no clear majority.
Not really Fruit, as the UK MP's voted to table amendments on Saturday (In a defeat to Boris and Mogg), not a simple yes or no vote. In other words they could amend it to say let the UK people vote on it (backdoor second referendum), or accept it if these points are changed with EU (in effect a delay). Hundreds of amendments could be made, none of which the EU could agree without discussing. So in many ways Saturday is pretty useless, other than being used for further delays.
Fruitster I just saw that pop up on BBC news, I assume that means if Boris does ask for an extension it will be refused. Although I know it will be down to the 27 members and not just Mr Junker but they may be likely to follow his lead.
imagine Labour saying they were here to save us from a no deal Brexit and then rejecting this deal to bring exactly that. Going to be very interesting to see how some of these top Labour MPs vote now Juncker has ruled out an extension...
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Degsie, the younger voters lost faith in JC after he promised free uni fees and then retracted on it - Labour need to win middle England and socialism just won't cut it - I know many Tory voters who voted remain, one being myself but when push comes to shove they will STILL vote Tory because the alternative is Corbyn
Hey Degsie - I don't think so - I have lived in London for around 30 years but I'm originally from a small mining village in Yorkshire so most of my family/friends from there support Labour however they all despise Corbyn - I think you may be surprised just how badly Labour do in the next election
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I think bojo is taking a calculated gamble Fruitster, that he will get the support of all the ERG and some Labour MP'S that have to go back to constituencies that voted leave to pass the deal without the DUP - if Labour reject the deal for the second time then they will be known as the party that stopped brexit happening going into the election - the papers will major on this and bojo will win by a landslide imo - most tory voters I know who voted remain will still vote tory as the alternative is Corbyn -
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On now
"The Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg urges MPs to allow a debate on the Brexit deal in a special sitting of the House this Saturday". Notice the word urges. In other words MP's have to agree to debate it, which has zero chance of being the case in its current form.
They can't vote on that because of the Benn Act. Odd thing to suggest by Mogg, trying to bully maybe, but no chance that would be the vote.
Pounds getting slaughtered now too, so looks like the market does not believe anything will be decided (nothing positive anyway)
I doubt the majority of MP's will accept that. It's not a case of this deal or no deal, there's a whole range of other options that Labour / Lib Dems / SNP will wish to approve (Plus its in law now that we can't leave without a deal, an extension would have to be requested). Nothing will get done at the weekend in my view, in fact I'd be amazed if they even convened as there's no point right now.
Rees-Mog on Reuters just now - the debate at the House Of Commons on Saturday will be a motion to either approve a deal or no-deal brexit - wow - that should concentrate minds!!!
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I hate to think the sell was an error.
Little selfish of me as I know it will be temporary but.
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