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Hi belgrano... totally agree with you on the short horizon - - hopefully we'll have good cause to stay very long
hi e- mail, fully agree with your prognosis for the future up to a point. However I'm only actually looking at the week by week changes in order to see an end to the conflict so sanctions can be lifted. This is solely looking at when our company can resume normal divi paying, and operations without any additional costs. Not really interested in peoples opinions, but prefer factual evidence. If we look every 2 weeks at progress its been pretty steady. May only be a mile or so a day, but that adds up to a lot over a fairly short time.
@belgrano... your analysis of Ukraine is a reasonable one... but Ukraine is fighting a Nato proxy war... Yes, Russia might win or achieve its objectives somewhat, but NATO will be the overall winner.... The wheels of history have been set in motion for Russia's permanent decline both militarily and economically - and there is no Russian intelligentsia skilled enough to reverse it. With Putin or without Putin, I give it 10 years and Russia will be only a shadow of itself
Still taking an overview of the conflict and trying not to become emotionally involved its clear that one sides tactics are certainly paying off and they are making steady and sure progress on their objectives.
Just not an easy answer to massed older style bombardment and high amounts of firepower, regardless of the cost to humanity.
Some pretty factual reports out that some crack Ukrainian units have had losses approaching 80% of their strength, and hurried in replacements lack experience so will suffer more in future statistics I'm afraid.
Don't think we are very far off a point where the attacking force might settle, whether Ukraine will agree is undecided currently, but failure to do so may prove much more costly in the long run, due to the facts below.
Ukraine now broke as a nation, and asking for handouts and has has all its infrastructure smashed, where as Russia has all its still intact, and has more income coming in from the Far East (new trading partners), than before the conflict even started, so is currently in a completely different position. So sustainability of the conflict on one side is crystal clear to everyone.
Seems Boris who is struggling for distractions for his own double standards is the European prime agitator against Russia, and other nations are very hesitantly backing him knowing its the wrong call, but wanting to pretend solidarity with him.
Think reason will shine through soon enough, its certainly the main cause of extortionate price increases here.
It is impossible to turn this war into an equal blame scenario.
Who invaded who? And on what basis? Denazification? Have bought the Kremlin propaganda line of impending genocides and iminente nato attacks on Russia? Naot was actually slowly unraveling as the EU was moving towards a European army, and there was serious leaning towards Russia and away from America. Putin just had to simply sit back and watch the west eat itself.
There is one and only one aggressor in this war. Nato is reunited, expanded and more arms have been sent to the nato line than since the end of the cold war.
Big-blue…nice narrative. You need to look at the West’s objectives and drivers. Our selfish leaders (East and West) are maximising opportunities for themselves.
The US need a multi polar world because we were heading for unity and if there is just one dominant country it isn’t the US in 20 years time.
There is a lot going on….you can blame Putin (and he is absolutely at fault) more than the rest of it makes you feel better, but the reality is the East and a west are to blame. It’s deliberate, it’s selfish….and the Ukraine is a proxy for the US for a split.
Looking forward to Poly to pull out of the doldrums and try make a few pennies like our glorious leaders are.
One small caveat on Ukraine being pressured into any kind of deal that leaves Russia rewarded i any way. Do you really think that will b the end? The stark answer is no. The ambitions of Putin, and his closed inner circle including successors, is ever more land grabs. Ukraine is just one stop on a long list. This is why defeat for Russia has a higher imperative than any knock on effects from the war economically. The Germans and others have been lucky to realise sooner rather than later the folly of ending up relying on Russia for energy. The friendly approach towards Russia has been warned against many times and has finally come true. That is the other side of the equation and it carries much more weight than any temporary ceasefire in Ukraine, because that is all any 'peace' deal will be until Russia false flags a treaty violation to qualify further ingres and land grab and move on to baltic states, Moldova and Poland. Like it or not, only one outcome will properly stop the aggressive tendencies of Russia.
*fit for office
I guarantee when this does come to an end we’ll look back and think, what a complete waste of time and money. We would have made zero difference to the outcome of the war instead we’ve just added billions more to the ever growing debt against gdp. Sanctions ain’t working full stop.
Inn my used to like Boris but he’s floundering around like a wolly now, if we’d had a referendum on whether to give Ukraine weapons at significant cost of the uk taxpayer the result would be a resounding no. Why are we borrowing money to pay for weapons to give to a country that up until before the war was just a corrupt scum ****hole
blue - maybe they got removed because they had not produced expected and demanded results?
interesting on the same page of your link
"British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Saturday that he feared Ukraine could face pressure to agree a peace deal with Russia that was not in its interests, due to the economic consequences of the war in Europe.
now in my opinion that is the most likely outcome. i sense zelensky is losing some support as world economy is suffering. he has been the hero up to now - but soon he will lose this status with his continual demands - which other countries can't afford. in addition they will see the war being prolonged as a disaster on a more global scale...he could also start to lose popularity in ukraine - so many young men dying.
of course boris has played it cute - if there is a peace deal he has already postured that russia needs to be stood up against....thinks he is a 3rd rate winston churchill...
mind you easy when the conflict has no personal cost to you
Yawn
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/britain-russia-has-removed-several-key-generals-ukraine-2022-06-25/?rpc=401&
Were these some of the generals moving to stop the war? ill it have an impact? The revolt gathers pace. Moscow is having to take more and more direct action.
have to say putins sabre rattling his nukes reminds me of the joke about the guy with 3 testicles, who took every opportunity to boast about it,until one day on a bus he turns to a guy next to him and says,do you know we have 5 testicles between us and the guy replies why have you only got one.. you just never know what the other guy has got.gla
Victor??? Never read it. Furthermore, he only valid units on measurement are imperial, as you Russians will find out as the Brits march on Moscow, mile by mile.
I note your post time, would be morning Moscow time, was it a quick post before work in your 8 day a week turd polishing job at RT?
Of course they have withdrawn. They would be in the firing line of the new weapons. Figured out what has been going yet?
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/06/watch-americas-himars-rocket-system-just-went-to-war-in-ukraine/
https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainians-fire-3-large-tactical-ballistic-missiles-russian-forces-ammo-depots-1719120?piano_t=1
Be under no illusions, this fight now begins proper. The delay in supplying the weapons has been hard, but they are now arriving and being put to use.
Doesn’t matter where in nato is nuked first, our subs and the other nato nations won’t hang around to launch. That’s the whole point MaD….
Email...I guess the ukr stubborn resistance is their greatest strength but also at times their greatest weakness.
See ruskies say that London will be bombed first in the event of a world war...nice of Boris to put us in the firing line....of course he will be safe in a bunker somewhere remote.
Lets hope blue is not in London...will be a bit of a shock for him! ..lol
Xr mob still here yawn
Slowly but surely it’s coming to an end
sensible move by UKR, wait for the heavy/new/more powerful weapons and then strike back, in the meantime just avoid losses... That's what they should have done in Mariupol... Why Zelensky let all his best fighters fight to the very end only to end up war prisoners when he desperately would have needed them for counterattack? Just for that "we never surrender" crap?... I think they got it wrong in Mariupol... Those men now prisoners would have achieved wonders in a counterattack
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61920708
This is the Ukrainian command order.