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Hi PDMSPiper. Can you share your research? That sounds a complete no go in my opinion, splitting passengers, and nowhere have I seen this even talked about. How would it even work? Ensuring they are separate from check in to boarding?! Also Heathrow is not the worlds busiest airport, it is number 7 in the world.
Debbie Antigen is those circumstances is innefective because you would show negative the first few days of infection during incubation period, however you would still be contagious. Completely flawed.
Immunity passports are the only way of successfully avoiding quaratine.
Debbie you need to ring Heathrow and tell them they’re doing it wrong love.
We can only relate the news and it’s there to see in several sources. The Heathrow CEO wants to use antibody testing, health certificates and temperature scanning.
I’m sure if you ring the CEO of heathrow and tell him that Richken and Myles on LSE told you he should use the AVCT antigen tests then he might change his mind.
Let us know how you get on. Ta.
Agree. The sp could go up beyond imagination. The market cap is relatively low compared to other companies in this field.
I am not willing to dissect price earning ratios at this stage as I am sure most people would agree.
The biggest, most bullish news we’ve had this week is that Heathrow airport will use Rapid Antibody testing.
They’ll have to order theirs after the initial 50 million gov order has been filled but I see that as another future game changing RNS that will send the SP into Orbit. An order for millions of tests by Heathrow. Other airports to follow. There’s a good 20-30% blue day in that alone.
My research suggests airports are gearing up to divide passengers into a low risk clean area where everyone has antibodies and a high risk area where we dont and need masks, distancing etc.
They are doing this because dealing with at risk passengers is time consuming and expensive. Splitting off passengers with antibodies reduces the cost as they are dealing with less passenger volume in the high risk areas. Arrivals will be similar. Those without antibodies go to quarantine etc.
Heathrow airport want health certificates to help them implement this. Their philosophy is that as time passes, the clean area with antibodies will grow and the expensive to run “at risk” area where passengers are without antibodies will get smaller as herd immunity grows.
They will supplement all this with rapid temperature screening in the at risk area to spot passengers with fever.
That’s the plan. Mass rapid antibody testing is the route out. Confirmed by Heathrow. More good news to come. An exciting couple of months for ODX. Happy days.
GLA DYOR
As early as April the CEO of Heathrow was calling for Antibody testing and health certificates but the gov said it wasn’t worthwhile “to this point”.
That was a few months ago. Heathrow CEO still wants antibody testing. ODX Rapid Antibody tests available in June. No mention of antigen tests. Temperature screening, antibody tests and health certificates are what the Heathrow CEO wants. Other airports will follow Heathrow. It’s the busiest airport in the world. Happy days.
“The chief executive of Heathrow airport has called on the government to introduce mass health screening checks at airports following criticism of Britain’s loose border controls during the worst global pandemic for a century.
John Holland-Kaye sent a letter to Matt Han****, the health secretary, on Thursday evening urging ministers to take a lead in developing global screening standards at airports. These could include measures such as temperature checks, antibody tests and a requirement to carry a health certificate.
But Downing Street on Friday rejected the call for checks at airports, saying the government’s position was “based on medical and scientific advice”.
“To this point it has been considered that wouldn’t be an effective step to take,” Number 10 said. “We keep everything under review and we do continue to look at what’s happening elsewhere in the world.”
MB great posts, only thing i would disagree with is the statement of everybody who hasn't already had a positive test is the market. People who have had a positive antigen test will still be curious if they have generated the anti bodies for sure and we need to understand how long antibodies exist. Everyone is the market.
I see a thread on twitter on this, im not on twitter, but to continue ...
"Simple question - How would you stop an infected person getting on a plane, going to a football match? going into work?
They are not stopping infected people getting on planes. The safety net is the quarantine period. Fact is they are leaving people to decide if they want to take the risk, the consequence is the quarantine period. Yes they have mitigation methods such as social distancing, hand washing, temperature screening. Quarantine protects the receiving country, not an antigen test. The only way of ensuring a person on a flight is not infected is if they have taken a positive antibody test and have certification. Fact is an antigen test does not stop an infected person getting on a flight. If you had 10,000 passengers going to an airport to a test centre, it could only take one positive person to infect the other 9,999. But the other 9,999 will produce a negative test on the day of infection, so they will be a ticking time bomb for wherever they land.
Football matches - if the risk is high enough to want to test 50 thousand people to let them in a stadium, they simply will remain closed door events. Again how do you congregate a crowd to a testing centre, when one infected person could infect the other 49,999.
Going to work - this is one area when tests could be used on a more regular bases, funded by employers.
Antibody testing is in the government strategy, with certification.
There is a big market for home based antigen tests. It looks like Sano are leading the way with this. But that market is in the likes of boots etc where someone with symptoms can order a test. But the number of these home antigen tests wont be as high as you might think, because infection rate is dropping, more people are getting immunity all the time, and a lot of people are asymptomatic.
Whilst slating avct you not going to mention the ongoing research in relation to antibodies and the fact that the majority have small numbers of antibodies and it’s still not know if these will offer anything over 4-5 months immunity. Both shares are high risk at the moment , most my money is in avct with a chunk in here hoping this comes to market first
PDMSPiper - i think there will be a market for all tests for a while. Where lockdown has been eased, infection rates have gone up so almost all tests will be needed. Over the next couple of weeks, infection rate in UK will go up and gov knows it. Its just a matter of how many. I'm in GDR and the main man had 3 interviews today and he mentioned all tests will be needed - to fight this nasty virus.
My feeling is that the government will make it a British ports standard UK-RTC test, so won’t just be LHR.
The UK-RTC will be used as the gold standard in the U.K, forming part of our air bridge system, with the test (along with an antigen test) being completed in the departing country, before arrival in the U.K.
Not denying that its going ahead nor denying the necessity of the tests... it was actually in response to a previous post which was completely misinformed:
"I'll tell you why because if you have antibodies you won't need to self isolate because you can't catch or spread it around come on use the old nogging"
Article clearly says Heathrow Airport will use Rapid Antibody testing. This will be the government backed ODX RTC Rapid home test.
Heathrow will use the antibody test in conjunction with temperature scanning.
That window of opportunity for an infected person to register a positive antigen test is so small it is just not worth while. You could test negative at Heathrow for antigen but actually still be a carrier and start infecting other passengers very shortly afterwards.
Antigen testing solves nothing and is not worth the massive time, inconvenience, trouble and cost.
Heathrow have now announced they are using antibody testing and it’s the worlds busiest airport. The world leader. Other airports will follow.
There’s lots of speculative hot money sat in AVCT expecting it to be used around the world at concerts, airports, sports events. Etc. I’ve read their comments. Even talk of billion dollar takeovers and how everybody is going to be millionaires. It’s all typical, unrealistic AIM dumb dream bull. The AVCT £300 mill Mcap is built on a foundation of wet sand.
When all that hot money realizes that rapid antigen testing is not as big as they’ve been told and there’s no billion dollar takeover coming then the AVCT Mcap will find real value for its affirmers at around £100Mill Mcap. That’s the truth.
ODX has the capacity now to manufacture enough tests to support an Mcap 5x current. That’s not pipe dreams. Thats reality.
I prefer to invest in reality rather than dreams.
You would like it to tank because you sold out perhaps ?
AVCT will tank... Never heard so much tosh inmy life.
Mikey, you are trying your best every now and then popping in here to see if you can get a cheap entry. I guess you must have just did a google search on WHO ANTIBODY and thrown that link here and it is an old article dated Apr 20th.
Everyone knows that govt is going ahead with antibody testing. Daily Mail now clearly says about antibody testing at airports from July. This perfectly echoes with what CK said about product commercialisation in summer months!
Expect RNS on design freeze soon.
It is better you buy
Is that factual or do you even bother to research?
who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19
Lb28
I'll tell you why because if you have antibodies you won't need to self isolate because you can't catch or spread it around come on use the old nogging
These little sausages try every trick in the book to discourage investors.
They hate the thought of the SP climbing after having sold out .
My advice is to throw them on the barbecue:)
I think concentrating on the travel market is pointless for either test, because the market is everybody anyway, its so small compared to where global demand will be. Everybody that hasn't already given a positive test is the market.
But the point about travel is that anyone can go get on a flight now, i have copied below the guidance from Heathrow airport. It's about social distancing, washing hands, etc etc. There is nothing stopping any of us booking a flight. The sticky bit is receipt of passengers from overseas and the quarantine that receiving countries may impose. 14 day quarantine in the UK. A negative antigen test will not exempt you from a 14 day quarantine period because you could have contracted the virus that day and tested negative, but an antibody test will exempt you from quarantine. The quarantine period is the barrier to travel, because there's no point going away for a 3 day break in spain and having 14 days quarantine on either side.
Enhanced monitoring is in place for all flights. This includes the provision of advice leaflets, social distancing measures, increased hand sanitiser units, complimentary face coverings, having Public Health England (PHE) colleagues and doctors on site, and trialing temperature screening in Terminal 2 Arrivals and a small number of Terminal 5 departures. The UK Government has also announced that from 8th June all passengers arriving in the UK will be required to complete a mandatory 14-day period of self-isolation.
Do you even understand what you're saying? antibodies = / = permanent immunity
I personally don't give a **** if you've had it, before boarding a flight I'll still want to know if you have it currently
Reality is both tests are required....
LB28 - you little sausage. Both tests will be needed. With an antigen test. It is possible to test negative and still have the virus. It is thought that if you have the antibodies in your blood. You defo don’t have, or are a carrier, of the virus.
You are crazy if you think they are going to allow everyone to congregate at airports to get an antigen test before letting them on a flight.
One of the major floors in this theory is that you will produce a false negative test 100% of the time on the day you catch the virus. This will not stop receiving countries imposing a 14 day quarantine just because you were negative on the day of a flight.
Key to unlocking travel is immunity passports. It is all about antibodies. Certification of a test taken in your own home
I said this weeks ago.. about the potential market for all airports/airlines and passengers getting tested world wide. People will have to be tested coming in and out of the country.. looking at last years data over 150,000,000 people can in and out of the country! (UK based airlines were responsible for uplifting a total of 153.7 million people in 2019.)