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JET47,Thanks for post , like many ,would like to know more how far covid 19 might travel indoors ,or outdoors ,
still seems to be many unknown risks from covid 19 , testing and more testing looks to the way to try and slow down the spread of covid 19
if enough accurate tests like the ncyt tests can be manufactured
Sharehunter3, C19 is definitely airborne. It's just a question of how far it travels. The NHS knows it's an airborne transmittable contagious virus. They're using negative pressure rooms for patients.
Hi B2HS2L,
Certainly may well be a greater risk in aircraft cabins.
Not certain how effective ultra-violet cleaning systems are in killing Covid-19 virus in micro droplet form.
https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2020/06/16/honeywell-to-introduce-fast-ultraviolet-cleaning-system-for-airplane-cabins/
be helpful if people knew , still so much uncertainty
@Jet I've always assumed that it would be airborne too. I think it's one of those things where to prove it and come out and form policy around it is just too much of a burden. It would break countries.
Reckon they'll only reverse position on that if the evidence becomes undeniable and the risks too great. Much easier for them to change track on that after the pandemic is dealt with, where they don't need to worry about policy implications.
Troublesome, as far as I'm concerned, WHO are playing catch up. I always thought the dangers of transmission by air were obvious, so to ask people to shield and self-isolate in lock-down, and then to go out onto their front doorsteps, all together, to clap, (an action which disperses air), in wind, and breeze, and close-proximity in some streets, was outright stupid. A neighbour two doors up from us had Covid19. He was out in his garden, coughing incessantly, and my family retreated in from our garden. He's ok now but he was marched into the ambulance by fully kitted-out medics. Our garden is lower than our neighbour's and we have the sea and a park at the top of the road, so the wind comes down from the top of the road (from his garden). If you can smell a neighbour's barbecue, what else are you breathing in? We need a vaccine, that's all there is to it, I'm afraid, and the sooner the better.
ALB
response to troublesome 06:21 post.
"In the coming days, WHO may be changing its guidance as more evidence is gathered.
Wonder which countries will be first to react ?"
- as more evidence is gathered:
Do airlines require passengers :
a) to pass a qPCR test within 3 days before flight.
b) to require passengers to provide email and telephone details before flight.
If a) and b) are true, then we should be able to gather data about recent passenger arrivals having covid-19 symptoms shortly after (within 2 weeks) of arrival.
If many passengers and crew from a certain flight are so affected, that may point to the flight as the point of infection, thus making the case that the virus infected passengers through airborne transmission.
The airlines might wipe seats down and clean the galleys and toilets, but air re-circulating ducting won't be touched, nor the components of the cabin pressurisation system.
It may also be the case that once a particular aircraft is virus contaminated, it will continue to contaminate future passengers, so I expect the smaller short haul aircraft to be the ones to observe most closely.
Passengers passing a qPCR test within 3 days before flight is too long IMO.
If WHO want to compile evidence, - the airline industry records may assist.
I shan't be flying anywhere soon.
I am an ex-aircraft maintenance engineer.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/who-acknowledges-evidence-emerging-of-airborne-spread-of-covid-19/articleshow/76840850.cms
In the coming days, WHO may be changing its guidance as more evidence is gathered.
Wonder which countries will be first to react ?