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They've already been listed PSK.
Investors who choose a share to buy don't not what they're doing if they base their decision to buy on whether a share is 45p or 220p. Shareholders choose an amount they want to invest.
Over 600 million shares to issue I don't think anyone invested wants to see that amount of shares hitting the market
New investors looking to invest in a company will look at the number of shares in issue, and lloyds has 3-4 times more than Barclays, Nwg. I was invested in lloyds and its painful to watch it not move. Now look at barclays and Nwg they look like a much better investment due to shares in circulation, and they actually move on buy backs.
585m shares have been block listed for the deferred bonus plan 2021. 57m shares were block listed for the executive plans 2016 & 2021. If that is all that is being block listed this financial year, it will be comfortably eclipsed by the 4bn+ shares that the buyback will remove from the register.
Unless you're privy to the total of new shares printed this year, I think you will find the share save shares will not eclipse the number removed by the buyback.
The amount of share capital will not change if there is a consolidation nor will a consolidation affect the value of share save schemes. I think you're getting a bit confused.
Share save scheme will cancel out this buy back out and it will be at 70 billion again.
Higher share price with less shares and the share save scheme will generate less new shares.
A consolidation would make absolutely no change to the percentage share price move whatsoever against no consolidation. The share capital remains the same.
A 3 for 1 or a 4 for 1 would lower the shares in circulation to 17-22 million buy backs then will atleast have some impact on the share price
Hi jcb208
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''Had an email from simply wall strreet my Barclays shares up 11.6% this week after starting the buyback, shame Lloyds cant perform as well when nearly 50% through theirs''
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I know we all want the share to blast off, but Id prefer us to be buying back shares at 45p than 65p like last time around
Buy Backs are to buy and cancel as many shares as at the cheapest prices possible.
If we can cancel 4 to 5 Billion shares in 2022, I will rise my glass to Charlie boy this Christmas as I believe over the next 18 months the share price will be rebalance higher with the less lower Market Cap on the balance sheet .
Rome was not bult in a day they say.....
Last thing I personally want is a 10 for 1 share , I feel I may never see my 63p again here for a long time.
It never worked out at RBS and we also will be hammered by the market , they just don't like it at all its shows weakness in the Management IMHO
So while we below NAV value 57p I happy for us to spent a percentage of profits on Buy Backs :_)
Had an email from simply wall strreet my Barclays shares up 11.6% this week after starting the buyback, shame Lloyds cant perform as well when nearly 50% through theirs
Hardup,
Not really, but I do see your point.
I am FULLY responsible for my research and which companies I decide to invest in.
I also have complete control upon when to add and when to sell.
When I look at some I often think that I wouldn't touch that with a barge pole, I would lose that control.
I also like that I can spread risk to suit myself and can chop and change in an instant if I wanted to.
If I end up poor in my old age I only have MYSELF to blame.
Beats me how Gazzleberry is involved with all this high finance, multiple funds here and there, but won't admit to being invested in Lloyds Banking Group. Is it so shameful to be a Lloyds investor?
Even more bizarre is that he's disposed of all his assets to various 'trusted' relatives (I assume they're trusted) to hold on his behalf so as not to pay any care home fees etc.
How does that work then?
Like I said earlier, he's a
b u l l s h i t t e r.
You have to have a good memory to be a fantasists.
We've had a few on here, I just dispare.
Bumble1968
"The days of me giving large sums of money over to someone I have never met are long gone."
Is this not what you do every time you buy shares in a company?
Gazzle,
I know your post wasn't aimed at me but there have been a few instances over my lifetime where I have lost any trust in pension and investment companies.
Issues not necessarily for me, but friends and family although I did find out the company I was working for in the 80's did a "bit of a Robert Maxwell" with the pension scheme.
The days of me giving large sums of money over to someone I have never met are long gone.
Suf,
And Mr. Woodford is a prime example of why I would never let anyone else carry out my investing for me.
I have plenty of AIM shares but I get to choose if, what & when to invest (and more importantly sell) whilst also maintaining a core of dividend paying "blue-chips"
SUFC
"Neil Woodford the legendary Investment Fund manager who sold all his LLoyds Banking Group shares in 2018 to gamble on the AIM and unlisted startups .
And look what happed him went bust and lost his clients' money in 2019"
Woodford did not go bust, he was sacked as manager of the funds. Woodford or his business partner did not lose any of their money, but sadly it was the investors in his funds who lost out. Woodford still got his dividend paid up until he was sacked as manager in May 2019.
https://citywire.com/funds-insider/news/woodford-and-partner-bagged-final-1-5m-payout-a-month-before-fund-suspended/a1496368
Just a reminder here, we all moan about Lloyds Banking Shares etc
Better the Devil you know I say ....
BUT
We can learn from other people's mistakes
We all remember
Neil Woodford the legendary Investment Fund manager who sold all his LLoyds Banking Group shares in 2018 to gamble on the AIM and unlisted startups .
And look what happed him went bust and lost his clients' money in 2019
I say keep it real
Keep it simple
Stick to solid FTSE 100 dividend paying stocks
Never get greedy
Have Bundles of patience , as it can be a roller coaster ride
Keep the Faith fellow Black Horse Investors :-)
https://www.fool.co.uk/2022/05/27/director-dealings-lloyds-iag-sse/
As Lloyds (LSE: LLOY) continues its share buyback programme, the British bank has seen its stock price increase by 3% this week.
A hawkish Bank of England has been stoking uncertainty surrounding Lloyds’ future.
This arguably led to a number of director dealings happening this week.
Definitely not looking gd
livestock
"Markets are holding Lloyds back so more share can be brought at a lower price"
I don't think so! If that was the case why was there only 8854 shares bought back today! And the volume traded today was 115,754,200 so the amount bought back was not restricted because of low volume.
Livestock
I disagree that when the war is over Gold will drop ,
with all the money printing and debt
Gold will rise slowly over next 3 to 5 years
$3000 will be in reach
Love & Light
Chips
Universal699
"What is going on with lloyds hardly moved while most banks are up"
Markets are holding Lloyds back so more share can be brought at a lower price
Since Monday Barclays started their own Buy Back share price nearly up 10%
Lloyd's only up 2.5 % in 5 days
Hopefully over the next few years we can shift a few more shares at today's price's , then hopefully I can hit my December 2019 buy in amount as it's looking like a struggle to even return to the 60s short term IMHO
Nearly all the UK bank shares are lagging, due to those (and other) near-term challenges.
Year-to-date...
FTSE100 = +1%
NWG = -3%
LLOY = -10%
BARC = -14%