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T/O rumour my backside. Some punter on LSE knows more than 'the city' or even the BoD's. Share price down over 10% since that comment. I would be embarrassed to post it unless I would be able to substantiate it.
Shame on you if any private investor takes you seriously and influenced a buy. DTG will come back into a sector with fewer players. Even IAG think a minimum of 5 yrs for passenger numbers to be back at pre covid levels.
IAG T O OF DART
Where did you here that??
JmcJ -I haven't been over TUI report but thanks for summary. I think everyone who can afford to will want away next year - habits die hard!!! Only those with no jobs will stay home - just got to get through next 6 months or so and get flying to full capacity, sell package hols and maximise the "club" holidays they market!!! Also rumours that IAG may try to take over DTG so HOLD this for a bit n see what happens!!!!
Thanks Expru. Will do. We've been there many times before. We normally go with TUI but they wanted over a grand more than normal so binned them off. We got almost identical holiday with Jet2 this year at much better value. £3k for 2 weeks for the 4 of us. Well happy with that. Hopefully more of the same next year. I'll certainly be checking.
I'll look into your recommendation too.
Has anyone gone over the TUI rns today? Some positive forward looking news, as they're showing 145% increase in summer 21 bookings, which is encouraging as Dart have previously reported they have liquidity to get through to April 21.
At 16.53 today someone bought 278k shares at £2m!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOMEONE IS F*CKIN KEEN!!!!!!!
Google is showing a close of 793, so must have been profit taking, followed some late heroes buying into the close
Prob profit taking from yesterday. I've heard nothing.
Did I miss some news etc. Why the drop today?
Have a great time Trent - ignore Boris - spend your money where you like!!!
But before you go have a look at AMGO - it's one of the most exiting shares and the BB has a right collection of characters
DOYR as usual
@ Expru2000.
That's good to know. We're due to go to Zakynthos in the not too distant with Jet2, so it's always good to know what to expect beforehand. Thanks for the info.
dfl - wow - what a rant - couldn't agree more!!! It is time for nature to take it's course. Personally, I don't know anyone who has had it let alone died from it and I live in a city of 750,000!!!
Look after the economy and the rest will look after itself. Boris' judgement is tarnished by what happened to him and his knee jerk reactions - including locking me down cos I've been to Tenerife which has virtually NO infections !!!!
Lets socially distance - 1.5 m max, where masks when in danger of breathing other peoples breath and be vigilant - BUT get back to work, get back to flying and living, because it IS safe to do so if you take care!!!!
OH - and avoid young people cos they don't give a toss about anyone but themselves and having a good time!!!
......Continuation.
Australia has a population of c25 million of which c4.25 million have been tested. Of these 17,920 people were found to be infected (0.4% of those tested). Sadly 208 of those infected died (1.16% of those who tested positive). Overall, the Australian CV19 mortality rate is 0.00083% (ie less than 1 death / 100.000 of population)!
Is it not about time that the governments throughout the World stopped panicking, and introduce strategies that will re-rail the World’s economy, reinstate sanity and remove the un-necessary fear that they have created!
I don’t think that a vaccine will be the answer to the problem. Despite political promises to the contrary, a suitable vaccine in sufficient quantities, distributed efficiently to allow effective vaccination of the whole population is way in the future. Even if this could be achieved how successful would it be given that it would not have completed the full cycle of clinical testing normally required. Would there be problems because of taking a shortcut – the Thalidomide tragedy is not forgotten – indeed it is the reason for comprehensive testing.
A more pragmatic solution is to allow CV19 to take its course through the population. The measures to counter the initial threat from CV19, the overwhelming of the NHS, are no longer required as that issue has diminished.
More is now known about CV19, the signs, the symptoms, and the wide range of the effect of the virus on the human body. The focus on dealing with CV19 should now be on restoring normality and consequently saving the economy. At the moment it would seem that we saved the NHS but few have yet realised the cost was the economy!
Sweden, and the UK, have followed different strategies in dealing with the issue, albeit the Swedes appear to have followed a path similar to the UK’s 2011 strategy, which was extant up until March of this year.
Sweden has reported 80,422 cases of infection and 5,743 deaths which the authorities have attributed to CV19. A mortality rate of 0.055% (ie. 55 deaths / 100,000 of population)
The UK has reported 256,428 cases and 41,082 deaths attributable to CV19. A mortality rate of 0.061% (ie. 61 deaths / 100,000 of population)
Sweden has a population of c10.5 million and the UK a population of c66.75 million. Therefore, it is reasonable to state that the UK population is c6.35 times that of Sweden.
On a population basis the Swedish infection figures become a UK equivalent of 510,679 (actual cases x 6.35) and UK equivalent deaths of 36,468.
This would seem to indicate that Sweden has had twice the infection rate of the UK but a lower number of deaths within that increased level of infection. This is borne out by the Swedish mortality rate of 0.055% compared with the UK 0.061%.
Because of the different national strategies followed, Sweden’s economy and general health are now in a far-far better condition that that of the UK. So why is the HIGNFY team at no 10 still continuing with the dystopian strategy that is wrecking the UK economy and the general wellbeing of the UK populous? Tragic as it may be to some, can 6 extra deaths per 100,000 of population justify the current measures?
Interestingly it would appear that dysfunctional government is not limited to the UK. The State of Victoria in Australia, where a quarter of Australians reside, would seem to have the lead at the moment - with a similar approach to restricting normal life.
Continued.....
Evening All,
We flew out on July 21st and returned as scheduled on Sunday 2nd Aug. The flights both ways weren't full but they were both 3/4 full. Masks were worn before we entered the airport all the way through to leaving the airport on the other side. Safety was always adhered to!
We went to Tenerife - one of the islands - it was as safe as houses. To my knowledge there is very very little covid in any of the Ballierics or Canaries, it's only in the North East of Spain. This leads me to believe the following.
1) The government are isolating me because they can't be bothered paying to change the track and trace computer programme to differentiate between mainland Spain and the islands.
2) The Brexit negotiations are going so badly for us that the government have thrown their teddy out of the pram and are stopping UK residents going to Spain AND islands therefore threatening Spain's economy - 25% of it's GDP is through tourism. Greece, Italy and S.Ireland will be next as they also have near to bankrupt economies which will also need an EU bailout.
3) The government want us to stay home to spend our money here to boost our economy. This is tantamount to citizen control which I thought only happened in the RED countries!!!!!
FOR GOD'S SAKE WILL SOMEONE FIND A VACCINE SO WE CAN BE FREE AGAIN - IM FED UP OF BEING CONTROLLED!!!!!!!!
It was a kick in the teeth to let people go on holiday and then effectively call them back again - this has really hit confidence. I think Gov reluctance to use testing at airports and quarantine or use 'air bridges' instead is due to them being worried about having enough to supply what they would consider higher priority areas such as care-homes first. Once manufacturing of tests (see previous post/link) has been seriously up-scaled, to cater for all the demands, we can go down the testing route rather than quarantine and this share will take off once more.
I think the SP so far, is showing great resilliance. However it looks a bit to me as though this is a fight to the death for the airlines.
This is looking like a decent shout so far. Seems as though most bad news is already priced in, so should rocket once we start having some good news for once
gla
Vaccine will not be the solution, at lest not in the short to medium term. We need testing at airports before departure at both ends. I'm in NYCT too and also Dart group as well as Carnival and Saga. I see testing as the solution to the travel share woes. With the likes of Novacyt being able to produce reliable and portable testing I cannot see why governments are so slow to act. Germany is making free testing available at Airports (as well as subsidising Lufthansa) whist BA says it's loosing £20m a day and our Gov just demands more blanket quarantines! Eventually I think they will see sense and then all these stocks will rise. Just got to work through the pain.
Yeap. It’ll be a terrible Monday.
There is no well known treatment and vaccine is still a good 6 months before it becomes available.
Can see this heading back to mid fours again! We need a vaccine ine SOON
Bad news about the quarantine rules coming back in for people coming back from Spain!
This and the markets weaker on Friday does not make a good picture for Monday.
Spain 14 day quarantine re-imposed?
Scots gov lift quarantine rule for traveling to Spain, time too.