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If the chance comes to get out around 48 cents then im gone, the rights will be held at .5, that does not look like it will change now, and please katoey can you enlighten me why its safer to play the NYSE: IRE and it is to plat BKIR? If this had of been Nationalised, to my understanding all shares would have been lost, why did you say it would be SAFER to play only IRE: ETF? altho I am playing both I would be intrested to know why it is safer?
Why would you buy a share that is over 95% nationalised?? The fluctuations in the SP are driven by the speculators. The normal PI will be the one left holding the baby. Cant pull the wool over peoples eyes with the usual:- "In X yrs time this will be worth X". If it really was that easy, then we'd all be millionaires.
She is trying to break through 0.99 resistance, go on and give us a good start for the big week we have commin up, up 4.2% so far
( toast ) not by a long way more buys today than sells let the dust settle and this will be 50p plus hang on in there guys it comes to those that wait
...then sell. If you insist on Irish banks then BKIR is the one. This ALBK is toast!!
I made the mistake one too many times getting sucked in to their hype and dramatisation. Lost a few £££ because they affected my emotions and I then made stupid trading decisions. Andrea Catherwood especially. She is a really good news presenter, her voice and timing is perfect for inciting fear and drama. Cute too. I dont watch or listen to them anymore.
The Governor and Company of the Bank of Ireland (The Bank of Ireland) Statement on Capital Requirements 29 November 2010 Bank of Ireland ("the Bank") notes the announcement by the Central Bank of Ireland on 28 November 2010 that, having considered the additional capital required to reach new capital targets, the Bank requires an additional €2.199 billion of capital to be generated by 28 February 2011. The Bank intends to seek to generate the required capital through a combination of internal capital management initiatives, support from existing shareholders and other capital markets sources. The Irish Government will subscribe for the incremental capital, should the Bank not be in a position to raise sufficient capital within the proposed timeframe. On the basis that all of the required incremental capital is equity and taking account of the guidance provided at the Bank's Interim Management Statement on 12 November 2010, the estimated pro forma Equity Tier 1 and Core Tier 1 ratios as at 31 December 2010 are circa 10% and circa 12.5% respectively. Ends. For further information please contact:
I bought into bkir last week at 0.25 to bring down my avarage, that keeps comming into my head, proberly listen to much to Bloomberg, do you want to be fearfull when others are greedy or GREEDY when others are fearful, let them loose there heads, altho iv nearly lost mine a few times with these two ugly sisters, ALBK and BKIR, so hopefully be out of them both soon
Why is trading the ADR better, or safer? if AIB was fully N would we also not loose are shares in the ARD?? Iv still shares on the AIB-ADR but I never knew it was safer, than ALBK?
...99% nationalisation for ALBK, means that BKIR is probably the better bet. Better still, trade the US version as that is "safer", Stock code IRE. Hope all you ALBK investors survive, but its pretty tenuous.
if you can keep your head when all about you áre losing theirs you will make money my son
This is it, we should no over the next few days will we get a chance to get out of this around 0.5 cents, a big lose but much better than 0.36, go on ALBK, if I get out at 0.5 I will never look at this again, its put 20 years on me in the last 3 mounths, I got in at 0.8 and I cant ever see it going back up to that, can anybody?
up 15% thank goodness!
I don't know mate, Its certainly looking interesting now, am gonna start having a look at banks now so will get back soon with a chart. One thing, I never thought it would happen at the time!!!! GL
What do you predict for the future on ALBK and do you know anything about BKIR. Thanks
much use now but i did this chart in september thinking it could never happen, I did post it a few weeks ago, its a bit weird, I was a month out with prediction, but remember it spooked me a little at the time. I hope this mess gets sorted soon.GLA! http://www.screencast.com/users/housekat/folders/Jing/media/deca806b-09bb-4922-b41e-cdeb55022e70
She is up over 10% in the US, I believe now that we no that they dont want to capatilase this fully, she should hit 50 cents again soon, thats if they dont give us another supprise and change the share price rights, still with this who knows, only my humble opinion.
Back to yesterdays close, hopefully that double bottom was the start of an uptrend, she has took of in the US up 8% lets hope the yanks push us up
We have had a double bottom now on nov 8th and now nov 24th, im dont know if it will make any difference to this but any hope is better than no hope, GL its going to be a tough few days, we will know for certain early next week, anything less than 99% will be a bonus in moving this up a little 24/11/2010 - 07:11:34 The EU and IMF are to provide the Government with an €85bn loan to recapitalise the banks and pay for public spending, it has emerged. The plan involves raising the level of capital in Irish banks from 8% to 12% in order to reassure depositors and boost confidence in the financial sector. The package would also see the Government take a majority stake in Bank of Ireland, while AIB would become 99.9% state-owned. Details of the massive loan agreement are not expected to be finalised until early next week. Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/euimf-bailout-figure-85bn-482993.html#ixzz16BvWbaUq
Glad I sold up, still should get back up to 50c fairly soon, may buy back in later today. I work in the Airline industry, was speaking to a pilot yesterday about AIB, he told me how he recently took a load of Allied Exec's and their wives on a recreational weekend in a Falcon Jet, cost to the bank 40,000 euro............makes you sick doesn't it!
It went up in the US but -15% on open 0.29
If they had of took 100% and put us out of are misery then the share price would not have jumped by 13.34% in after hrs trading, what 99% means is we will not be fully NAT, which means we dont loose everything. 100% and we loose the hole investment, should be a good open today 0.891 -0.219 (-19.72%) After Hours: 1.010 +0.119 (13.34%) Nov 23, 7:59PM EST NYSE real-time data - Disclaimer Currency in USD
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The Irish government will take a majority stake in Bank of Ireland (IE:BIR 0.29, -0.10, -24.94%) (IRE 2.02, +0.32, +18.82%) , according to a report in the Financial Times on Tuesday that cited Irish government officials. Ireland's banking sector has been cast into doubt, as the government is seeking international aid, in part to shore up its banking sector. Earlier this month, the Bank of Ireland said its loan-to-deposit ratio was 160%, up from 145% at the end of June.
Why did they not put us out of our misery and take the lot?
The financial situation is not as bad as we think..according to Goldnam Sachs, in a report published last week. We are forcing the banks to raise too much capital, they say, because the property they are transferring to NAMA is undervalued by NAMA. See http://brianodoherty.ie/wp/featured/2010/11/goldman-sachs-says-irish-bank-losses-not-so-bad/