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apart from giving the real-time supply and demand of a stock. Are there any other advantages??
https://app.ortex.com/s/LSE/POLY
Link to order book live.
£39 a month allows you to see the LIVE ORDER BOOK on the link/site BELOW.
7 day free trial, you have to enter your card details and cancel after five business days.
@Foor, all for free here
https://www.shorttracker.co.uk/company/JE00B6T5S470/
https://app.ortex.com/s/LSE/POLY/short-interest
Short interest reduced to near enough zero last week. Down from 380k out on loan.
£39 a month allows you to see the order book on the link/site above. 7 day free trial, you have to enter your card details and cancel after five business days.
Floor. I'm hoping for good or solid news on Tuesday, of course, but do I remember from the Investors day that income is somewhat cyclical? With first half being slower than second half. In which case, solid would be good.
@Foor some platforms are only allowing 'sells' thats another thing, as they are marked as sells and not put through during trading hours could be stop the price dropping, or they could be buys sells placed on order book and put through out of hours to mop up the left overs from the day, the price can be either sell or buy at that point only registering as a sell due to the close price.
I am sure that if big enough orders are placed on the book the market maker will find a way to fill them, the bigger the order the more likely it will get filled. As the order is for a big round number i would bet more likely a buy, i look every day and cannot remember seeing a buy go through for 500,000 in one order, so unless they have been accumulating stock its more likely to be a 'buy'.
Institutions dumping some stock we will get an RNS as im sure you know, again only very small amount in greater scheme of what is the total so free float of LSE again as we are talking about sell does not make sense because they are stock already 'owned'. If it was an order that wanted to be hiden from the market it would have been broken down into smaller chunks rather than 1 big one, this would have prevented any big price drop allowing the seller to off load at max price, even 1p with 500,000 is £5k.
It could also be just a normal out of hours sell, with no relevance to news.
Edgy no, by no means. I'm more than 50% in cash, 10% of portfolio in here (140p Av); looking to take a dip elsewhere, but in a falling market, I'll get locked in as I ladder into the sectors as they fall. Which means I have less powder to invest in here should we go below 200p again. I'd rather sit and wait to see the direction here, as my regret in not to go 50% in here around 125p. At the time I thought we might see 50p when I was buying at 110p and it looked shaky.
Those big sells are big, make no mistake, over a million shares sold in an hour or so, (Only around 280 million freefloat on the LSE) sold on a Friday just before a trading update. It points to one thing, poor sentiment, maybe something to do with debt restructuring or cash flow. I don't mind if I am right or wrong, but they are big sells.
Numbers do not lie, we will see Tuesday AM, but no not edgy in here, the Kaz assets more than compensate for todays SP.
@Foor i love the questions the trades to, the UT you can disregard, the others even in worse case scenario if sells are only very small portion of shares in issues, this is my 'step back and look at bigger picture' thought.
My suspciaous thought would be someone may know something or they maybe taking the chance they think they can double up with below par RNS, its may also be that as the price is trending down they dont want to sit and wait. There is a lot of money to be made on the stock market at the moment with the volatility, imagine day trading with million £ and only having to make 2p on any share, thats £20K a day! Lots of scenario's here if you over think, if your LTH it should not matter, if your edgy about it would i be right in guessing you are more than 50% POLY in your portfolio?
Some huge sells on Friday PM; do we think some of these sells could be buys sitting on the order book for a while, waiting to be filled then executed after hours so not to drop the SP, some volume there. These types of volume sells would have an effect on the SP to drop in normal trading hours. Possibly down to ~220p
Anyone got eyes on the order book Friday PM or even better anyone got level 3, it would give a good insight as to who is placing these orders. The timeline with the coming trading update is worrying if they are sells, and good news if they are buys masquerading as sells due to the length of time the orders have taken to be filled and executed.
0-May-2022 16:37 240.61p 500,000 £1,203,048 Sell O
20-May-2022 16:24 241.45p 105,385 £254,456 Sell O
20-May-2022 16:24 241.45p 105,385 £254,456 Sell O
20-May-2022 16:35 241.50p 100,887 £243,642 Sell UT
20-May-2022 16:16 240.70p 100,000 £240,700 Sell O
20-May-2022 16:27 241.00p 81,081 £195,405 Sell O
20-May-2022 15:49 241.15p 59,578 £143,672 Sell O
20-May-2022 15:48 241.00p 56,965 £137,286 Sell AT
If MMs have hoovered up a load of shares they dont want to hold they auction them to people after the bell. This doesnt move the price and allows the MMs to either cut their losses or make a profit depending on what they paid
“Why sell 100000 @240.50?”
Very often with L2 you can see an order placed to buy say 100,000 shares at 240.50 which is below the median price and close to the sell price. Over a period of time you can gradually see the order get cleared at the price and it is then reported as a sell as it’s below the mid price. You’d think there would be a better way somehow
The war IS poly.
Learn that, accept that. Nothing else matters
and discussing estimations on when the war will end is completely relevant. Do you stay out thinking some are correct that the war will go on for months? Or do you settle for a price now in case there is a sudden end due to the generals calling it off and/or coup in the Kremlin?
Probabilities of what sp changing events could happen and when are completely valid. Expecting discussion boards to chatter away a if the war was some background noise to be shut out is just not going to happen.
Maybe Russia wants to negotiate now they think they have a corridor. Can’t see Ukraine doing anything other than continuing to the military conclusion. More and more cash weapons and sanctions coming so why would they concede yet?
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you are assuming that these are all sells ;-) smart money is as shifty as they come, they will try to hide big orders and let others through to keep us all hooked. What we are seeing is accumulation of stock, pi's getting tired and handing over their shares to the bigger players. Is an accumualtion zone or 'demand' zone which is why it wont go lower.
10:15 240.50p 100,000 £240,500 Sell O
10:05 243.00p 50,000 £121,500 Buy O
I'm tempted to get Level 3 in here. Anyone got eyes on the order book, something just don't add up in here.
A level III quote allows a person to enter into best execution trades as prices are being updated in real-time. All publicly traded equities have a bid price and an ask price when they are bought and sold. The bid is the highest price an investor is willing to purchase a stock.
"Let’s stay focused on the share, the auditor, the distribution of gold outside of KAZ and RUS."
And then in the very next sentence, THE VERY NEXT ONE;
"Looks like US/Russia and Ukraine are in talks!"
As you say and not as you do, eh???
so many maybee's. Maybe the see the trend that this could drop, and didn't fancy holding, a 'sensitive' type that doesn't like volitility, or a II just finally dropping poly from their books, who knows.
Why sell 100000 @240.50?
Now 3.
Something very odd going on here. The SP has been sat above 240p now for quite a few weeks, it rarely goes below if only to settle a mates rates big order then bingo back she comes to settle around where we are now.
Why would you sell at...
08:46 240.75p 50,000 £120,375 Sell O
Would this help manipulate the SP down? I cannot fathom out how the hell the mechanism works to send the SP in either direction. The volume is ridiculously low, I do wonder if Hedgies or funds or institutions are shuffling volumes around between departments, arms or off shore accounts to maintain volume and control the SP within a channel. It's as if no one is selling at this price, some are waiting for sub 200p, so we are at a rock and a hard place. Thoughts?
Disclaimer, I am awaiting with big powder for sub 200p at an average today of sub 150p
BB getting better, had 2 readable and positive, focused inputs today, long May it continue? Let’s stay focused on the share, the auditor, the distribution of gold outside of KAZ and RUS. Looks like US/Russia and Ukraine are in talks!