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Anyone else feel like today has been flat as a pancake here and elsewhere? Not much happening at all....where's Chesh when we need him to lift our spirits or is he off cruising again?
17 May
(Alliance News) - Carnival PLC on Monday said some of its units have resumed cruises in Europe and the Caribbean as it eyes restarting US voyages in July, amid regulatory talks.
AIDA Cruises, Costa Cruises, Cunard, Holland America Line, Princess Cruises, Seabourn and P&O Cruises have begun sailing from global ports in Europe and the Caribbean, Carnival said.
"Additionally, as the company continues to work with authorities to resume sailing in the US, its Carnival Cruise Line brand has announced possible US restart plans and hopes to begin operating sailings in July on three ships from ports in Miami and Galveston, Texas. The company and several of its brands are also hopeful that cruises will be allowed to sail to Alaska for part of the summer," Carnival added.
"Collectively, the brands resuming sailings from global ports over the next several months will be using a gradual, phased-in approach, including limited itineraries that have been announced on 16 initial ships to date, representing nearly 20% of the company's global fleet."
The initial cruises will have a limited capacity, as well has "enhanced health protocols".
I wonder how long it takes to produce the results for the tests. Would be interesting to know.
Just to add, 5,000 active clients at any one time would equate to just under 230 tests a day assuming 22 working days a month.
Oh I do hope so fingers crossed
G
To be honest Glebe, I think I might be looking at the low end numbers. GB has said they are max capacity right now which I understand is 5,000 customers. Assuming, capacity is for 5,000 users a month to be taken on rather than 5,000 being the absolute max limit full stop (which would be silly imo) then I am happy to work on 5,000 new clients a month being "manageable" and each paying £170.00 per year (absolute lowest end number) then £10m incomes over 12 months would be the figure assuming the run rates stays the same ie 5,000 new users paying £170 each PA being taken on every month and that's the low end.
Morning Newuncle,
Not wanting to be negative at all, the danger with predictions as this is it can creat unrealistic expectations, the numbers quoted are incredible, but in my view they are pie in the sky.
If 25% of that number were achieved it would be remarkable.
I have never wanted to be proved wrong so much in my life before but I just can’t see it.
Thanks for the numbers I can see the rationale behind it now, if they are anywhere near then an RNS will be out very soon.
G
I might have this totally wrong but I am assuming they can take on board 5,000 customers per month, each paying a total of say £170.00 per annum, gives us a total for 12 months of
Month Subscriptions Customers Cumm Value Cumm
1 £170.00 5,000 £850,000.00
2 £170.00 5,000 10,000 £850,000.00 £1,700,000.00
3 £170.00 5,000 15,000 £850,000.00 £2,550,000.00
4 £170.00 5,000 20,000 £850,000.00 £3,400,000.00
5 £170.00 5,000 25,000 £850,000.00 £4,250,000.00
6 £170.00 5,000 30,000 £850,000.00 £5,100,000.00
7 £170.00 5,000 35,000 £850,000.00 £5,950,000.00
8 £170.00 5,000 40,000 £850,000.00 £6,800,000.00
9 £170.00 5,000 45,000 £850,000.00 £7,650,000.00
10 £170.00 5,000 50,000 £850,000.00 £8,500,000.00
11 £170.00 5,000 55,000 £850,000.00 £9,350,000.00
12 £170.00 5,000 60,000 £850,000.00 £10,200,000.00
trillsg,
Can you help me with the maths please.
I work out by your figures that has a cost of £170.00 per month or £2040 per year per individual, I thought this was a subscription model, If so and if the numbers of people taking up the offer are accurate this will demand an RNS in the next couple of weeks as it is material
Production capacity was 5000 p/m so sounds like they're on target to meet that. Using the cheapest option and not discounting it to allow for some of the more expensive plans, that equates to £850,000 p/m, £10mill p/a. No china or android (75% of the market vs Apples 25%) yet. All looking good. My order number was 4063 and it not been running for a full month so gives me no reason to doubt this.
https://twitter.com/gjbrandon/status/1393642431900434438?s=19
Hey Nweuncle, can you let me have the link for that please I can’t see it
G
Gerry tweet stc already at max capacity Wow!
trillsg, indeed. Thanks for the link.
Maybe I'm too optimistic but anything that moves 'instant' testing forward to reality has to be a positive for DVRG (won't be able to service the whole market anyway...).
At least the existence of Canary shouldn't come as a surprise to posters on this board.
A Canary story was posted to this board Thu 13:27. Reproduced below (did nobody appreciate the lead time to shipping line? Cruise industry here we come...):
News today for Canary Global. Testing for British Airways using saliva not breath. So not using ASU breath detection system...
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/british-airways-trials-game-changer-094019289.html
And couple subsequent thoughts as not thinking too quickly at the time also reproduced below:
Thu 13:34
"The Department for Transport has said it will review its policy on June 28."
Isn't that when we expect to hear an update for BT. Assuming news on Monday of last week in month and don't have to wait until last day of month.
'course then lead time to shipping...
Thu 13:54
Chesh, perhaps they are having problems with their breath test? Breath much preferable according to the good Doc:
"Saliva is not 100% reliable. Others have shown that some people have virus in saliva but not the nose, and in some cases it is in the nose but not in saliva. Whether this is a time effect is irrelevant at the point of testing: you want to tell true +ves from true -ves to 100%."
10:09 AM · Mar 25, 2021
https://twitter.com/DocMoschos/status/1375027136415809536
Sure we have a wait to end of quarter to find out more. But others not so much. NDAs and all that...
Remember Canary T.Rat?
British Airways trials ‘world’s first’ 25-second rapid Covid-19 test
“According to the test manufacturers’ website, the test is said to find 91.3 per cent of positive cases of asymptomatic COVID-19. However, the test is classified for professional use only, meaning the validation of the efficacy of the test is self-declared by the producer,” Dr Jonas Nilsen, founder and CIO at travel health experts Practio told i.
“This limits the trustworthiness of the results. Furthermore, there is no information about the number of people involved in the validation study which raises suspicion. External validation of rapid COVID-19 antigen tests with nasal swabs that tend to be more accurate than saliva tests have been shown to be only 50-60% accurate.
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/british-airways-rapid-covid-19-test-trial-25-second-999153
It’s very clever how nature doesn’t waste water and we do. We use it as a dumping ground, surely wastewater can be useful. China a good place to start I think.
Boom it’s going to be epic to Mars.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-05/14/c_139945838.htm
Xi Focus: China's water diversion project promotes green developmen
"There are 13 automatic water quality monitoring stations along the middle route. Underwater robots are widely used for monitoring aquatic organism and sediment levels, and checking water gates."
Probably these grand schemes will require monitoring
CGTN: China to prioritize conservation in its water diversion project
14 May 2021 - 05:24PM
PR Newswire (US)
BEIJING, May 14, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- China will press ahead with the world's largest water diversion project and prioritize water conservation in the process.
As the country pursues green and high-quality development, efforts should be made to advance the South-to-North Water Diversion Project in a scientific manner and promote the effective and economical use of water resources, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Friday.
Xi made the remarks at a symposium on advancing the high-quality follow-up development of the project in Nanyang, central China's Henan Province, following an inspection tour that began on Wednesday.
He called for safeguarding ecological security and promoting balanced spatial distribution of water resources in the country.
3,000 West Lakes, 120 million people
The South-to-North Water Diversion Project links the Yangtze River, the Huaihe River, the Yellow River and the Haihe River. It is aimed at providing a permanent solution to the water shortage in northern China by diverting water from the country's water-rich southern regions.
The grand project consists of three routes, among which the first phase the eastern and middle routes went into operation in 2013 and 2014 respectively. The western route is still at a pre-construction stage.
As of early April, the project had transferred 41.8 billion cubic meters of water to the northern areas, which was equivalent to the water volume of nearly 3,000 West Lakes – a renowned scenic area in Hangzhou in east China's Zhejiang Province. More than 120 million people had directly benefited from the project.
Xi's inspection tour and the symposium came at a time when China gears up for planning and implementing the next stage of the project. According to the Outline of the 14th Five-Year Plan (2021-2025) for National Economic and Social Development and the Long-Range Objectives Through the Year 2035, efforts will be made to advance the follow-up development of the eastern and middle routes of the project and the appraisal of plans for the western route.
Elaborating on how to advance the project in a scientific manner, Xi called for efforts to strengthen demand and supply management, maximize overall benefits of the project, prioritize water conservation and enhance the protection of ecological environment. He also called for accelerating efforts to build a national water network and ensure national water security.
Xi hails sacrifice by resettled residents
The place where President Xi chose to convene the meeting is of great significance to the water diversion project. Located in the southwest of Henan Province bordering Hubei Province, Nanyang is the starting point of the middle route, which carries water from Danjiangkou Reservoir in central China through Henan and Hebei provinces all the way to Beijing and Tianjin in the north.
More than 40