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MOOla, Yup, agree. There have also never been so many big pharma and biotech companies collaborating to produce effective vaccines. I too would not take the Sputnik vaccine, but to say Oxford/AZ, Pfizer, JJ etc are going to mass market something not tested is just scare mongering and selfish. They have all signed up to a position statement guaranteeing not to bend to political pressure and only release the vaccines when scientifically tested as safe. I will take mine when it arrives. We are lucky in the UK that we will have free access to this and early. Let's be grateful an accident of birth gives us privilege that vast areas of the planet lack.
If a vaccine was not required because the virus is so benign, why on earth are the WHO and other independent organisations calling for it? We need a significant proportion of the population to take the vaccine to develop herd immunity and protect the elderly and those with weak immune systems who can't take the vaccine. Not taking one is just selfish IMO. Spreading fear about vaccines is poor, but why am I constantly surprised how low people will stoop to make a bit of cash?
Oxford have been developing the vaccine for years...
I'll take a vaccine as soon as I'm allowed to. Just because things have moved slowly in the past doesn't mean with the proper funding and motivation humans can't do things quicker and safer. Technology has improved and these are unprecedented times.
Over 1900 posts on a stock he has no interest of investing in = trying too hard.
It's not distribution that will impact the sp in the short term it's approval. Indepth doesn't care about the share price he just wants to spread doubt.
Hosia agree 100%, some don't realize the power of the mind or suggestion for that matter, I wonder how many people were admitted to hospital with breathing difficulty due to severe panic attack.
"In the history of medicine, rarely has a vaccine been developed in less than five years. Among the fastest to be developed was the current mumps vaccine, which was isolated from the throat washings of a child named Jeryl Lynn in 1963. Over the next months, the virus was systematically “weakened” in the lab by her father, a biomedical scientist named Maurice Hilleman. Such a weakened or attenuated virus stimulates an immune response but does not cause the disease; the immune response protects against future infections with the actual virus. Human trials were carried out over the next two years, and the vaccine was licensed by Merck in December 1967. (6/9)"
Hands up who wants to take a vaccine with only a few months testing for a disease that 99.5% of people survive? If you believe that one will be next year and it will be sufficiently safe, then I hope you and your family are first in line to take it. Personally I'll be waiting the 5 years to see if you live or die. (or are disabled for life).
"Vaccine is good, widely expected for early next year. Will take quite a while to manufacture, distribute and administer after approval"
July, as reported by multiple sources.
"Who knows how long it will take before social distancing is no longer required ?"
6 weeks ago, as reported by nearly everyone out on the p*ss on an evening /weekend, in my local supermarkets, softplay centres, bowling alleys etc etc.
The legend of Indepthbolox continues... that could be a film title... might have Disney knocking on your door soon chap, don’t forget this bb when your famous!
@indepthwins
Why are you trying so hard on a stock you'll never be invested in? Whats the point?
@Indepth - got to hand it to you chap, you’ve made a name for yourself not just on this BB but joining the NEX BB today it was mentioned that you’re a bolox posting bully... completely agree with the bolox posting bit but a bully... naa! Anyway your reputation proceeds you, well done Indepthbolox!
You get long term after-effects with flu too. The difficulty with "long covid" reports are they are likely to generate a widescale negative placebo effect as we have never been so inundated with news about a disease before. Many will read about long covid and think, "Hmm I was tired yesterday..." and then the mind-body effect takes over. It's an extremely powerful effect. Being a mild hypochondriac I know first-hand from my own health scares in the past and the way I would develop pains in areas a few days after reading about a new illness to which scans would show nothing.
Obviously I'm not saying it is not real at all, especially if someone was hospitalized, but I believe the number of people who would generate symptoms just from reading about 'long covid' would be huge, as is typically encountered on a smaller scale by junior doctors when they experience "medical students' disease".
Depth. To be fair, vivid 19 is an RNA virus with low mutation rate so a vaccine is conceivable and likely to be more effective than the flu vaccine IF they can make one work. They are certainly throwing enough money at it. The problem is the timescale...these things take years to trial appropriately in the UK and US and everyones hopes for recovery seem to be pinned on this vaccine
PB, your opinion is one I sympathise with. Perhaps could put it a little more delicately but the fact is the government and ruling bodies are terrified and are willing to fight it at apparently any cost. Mostly the cost of the economy, largely the tourism and leisure industry.
Out of interest generally what's the health status and age of the patients that are coming in?
People talk about how we could see 100 dead a day from Covid... ooo scary! Completely discounting the age, health and fact that 1500 people die a day in this country - unfortunately we haven;t yet cured death. With Flu currently accounting for 10x the deaths and cancer and heart disease killing 700+ it really boggles the mind we are still talking about Covid.
Indeed they do. They are still in a recession.
Whatever your opinion it is still an opinion, Sweden has a different opinion.
To pay the bills I work in a large teaching hospital. The cases are increasing. We were down to 2 cases hospitalised a couple of weeks ago, now up to 18. Whatever your opinion on Covid, this will escalate rapidly.
I kind of agree... I think I’m a few weeks if will all settle down again and the world will look fwd again, if this happens this will give a massive boost to everywhere as that’s the “second wave” gone then... there isn’t much else they can throw at us....
I just get the feel things could start to change very soon :)
Waivers will get signed
Bond will be released
USA will open more sites
New York and California will open
Media speculation about 2nd wave dies
Maybe movie titles bought fwd
Someone said there’s nothing to pick this up, I say it’s just getting going now
Agreed and this Sky data summary was the best I've seen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cDtC_8V5k&t=309s. given folk can only die once (fat, vulnerable, existing conditions, diabetes etc) the 2nd wave deaths are very low. Will be over in time for Bond!
I agree podcast, also just saw this chart showing new icu and hospitlizations now going down, despite Spain staying open other than Catalonia and part of Madrid. In my view the bulk of the danger from covid is over, it just depends on when governments can let it go. https://twitter.com/carlheneghan/status/1310140822839590912/photo/1
With Spain allegedly 2-3 weeks ahead of us, things looking good...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/
The 2nd wave is simply not materialising in terms of deaths.
Sky News report “New UK COVID-19 cases fall for second day in a row”
There is generally a lag in numbers at the weekend but it could point to things improving or not getting as bad as many were predicting last week.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-new-uk-covid-19-cases-fall-for-second-day-in-a-row-12083707
Hosai, completely agree. They need to let Uni students get on with it. Whilst at University, they are in a bubble with other youngsters. Risk of even needing to be hospitalised is minimal. Better still, when at University, they are away from their grandparents. It's in fact the best option currently. How I wish we had a govt with the courage to take tough decisions. Sadly the gov't is in the grip of the media that loves to be negative.
Instead, we will see the inevitable cancelled university and misery for our youngsters who are the ones who will be paying for this economic ruin for the next 30 years.
7 day average of cases on 26th Sept = 5559.
7 day average of cases on 12th Sept = 3001.
So much for doubling every week, even with the increases in testing each day it's not even doubled in 2 weeks.
Also interesting study in Tokyo, Japan which has mostly stayed open, study found that by end of summer 47% had been exposed, mostly through asymptomatic spread. Low deaths there might be due to very low obesity or more previous exposure to other coronavirus.
The way we are treating students is ridiculous, we have decided it's "impossible" to protect the vulnerable so instead are locking up the people least at risk. Having a track and trace system at university is virtually pointless. It will spread like wildfire there like virus' always do at university (freshers flu). More people have died over the age of 100 than under 30.
They will all be at less risk of covid than flu at their age and for the most part will not be interacting with people who are vulnerable or elderly. (Yes there will be exceptions but that is life, life is not perfect, just as it is not perfect that non-vulnerable people can pass the flu to vulnerable people each winter which kills them).