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My money on Morgan Stanley, their CEO watches the defi space like a hawk.
Good post @ ICB888..as you correctly state,the value of Dtransfer can easily be overlooked within the Satoshipay umbrella. Satoshipay may have no current intention to IPO,but surely,the longer they wait,the more valuable it will become.I think it's fair to say that,given current market comparables,we are currently still way undervalued given our holdings in SP and Dynasty.My only concern here is that i can hold onto my shares kong enough, as their value increases toward true value.
I will repost something from a few days ago which I think is frequently overlooked. Helping Dtransfer was the inspiration for Pendulum.
Clearly there is great potential in Pendulum but do not overlook Dtransfer which could be the real jewel in the crown. In the RNS when Tony Fabrizi retook the reins:
“ In early 2020, SatoshiPay announced it was refocussing on B2B cross-border money transfer through blockchain with the launch of DTransfer. This was identified as a major global market opportunity which had scope for disruption through blockchain. Since switching focus, SatoshiPay has made solid progress in building DTransfer by signing up customers and building partnerships.
· While building DTransfer, it became clear that the blockchain infrastructure required to launch Dtransfer as a complete solution still needed refining. This encouraged SatoshiPay's management to seek out ways of providing and supporting this infrastructure, which led to the inception of Pendulum.”
Later in that RNS:
“ SatoshiPay owns 100 per cent of DTransfer which remains a highly attractive opportunity.”
Dtransfer is up and running and has been closely involved with Pendulum. It is perfectly placed to gain first mover advantage in the DeFi forex marketplace.
A very exciting time for BLU shareholders as Satoshipay has more than 1 string to its bow that should monetise very quickly when Pendulum launches.
SatoshiPay owns 100 per cent of DTransfer which remains a highly attractive opportunity.
The greatest value for Satoshipay could well be its 100% ownership of Dtransfer. When Meinhard talked of a Unicorn I think he was thinking Dtransfer would be responsible for that being achieved.
Mmm..
Emmmmm.....
Taking Duke and Blubuttons' estimates,using approx. calcs. :
Moonriver Current MCap = $ 52m
Moonbeam Current MCap = $ 271m
Satoshipay IPO ? $ 240m
Blu = $ 72m = 1.2p per share
Dynasty ? $250m
Blu = $ 30m = 0.5p per share
Satoshipay + Dynasty = 1.7p
Current SP = 0.26
= MULTIBAGGER !!
What are we doing down here at this SP ?
It's a buy more,hold tighter and wait a little longer for me!
agreed dukee
Satoshipay hopefully considering options post PEN, once they gain traction in FX market , even as soon as a few months after launch of PEN , i would reiterate that i would like to see Satoshipay IPO on Nasdaq, the Yanks would love this kind of tech company and it would be allowed to trade on a higher multiple than if listed in LOndon or Frankfurt.
for a company who will offer what has not been offered previously to FX market, what price do you put on that.
however, £200m IPO for Satoshipay = £60m to BLU, or 1.2p per share (approx),.
your figures with regards other tokens , well its insane, i'm still amazed a piece of doge sh5t (sic) goes to that level
PEN has a practical use in the largest market on the planet, i will most certainly buy PEN as soon as i am able.
0.26 is the magic number
And from a value perspective it's independent (well mainly...). There will be some potential cross impact as theres cross burns, etc. But it gets complex.
PEN Is it's own token. There is no reliance on the value of Polkadot. It's basically independent. Polkadot is basically a Layer 0 token - it's the foundations if you like from a building sense. Pen is built on top of it - if you view it like a house, Pen is basically brick work, etc. Serves its own purpose. It's how all tokens and projects work - they all serve different purposes.
Thanks ragnarr, but that was not really the question, if our backbone is Polkadot what does that me with regard to the valuation of PEN, as I understand we will be moving on other tokens as we move forward, but what does our association with these other tokens (and Polkadot) have to do with our intrinsic value? Are we a stand alone token, just using other platforms to exercise our operation of FX? If we gain traction, does that mean that Polkadot will go up in value too???
I know this is a very complicated environment, but if you or somebody else could shed some light it would be appreciated.
Personally think people here are willing to buy but don’t want to feed the seller that’s clearly keen to dump stock.
Let them dump and pick up cheaper stock. That’s how I see it. Thanks
Let's face it, when did a share price ever behave rationally.
I too fully expected a big rally today (we may of course still get one but looking doubtful).
It's frustrating but human psychology is complicated. People miss the rally's usually becasue they happen in the blink of an eye, we all know that.
Shocked at the lack of interest today with just 10 trades.
That sound very naive Darkhero. We are all the same, whether we own 1 share of 1mln shares, and all in it for ourselves. Do you expect shareholders to say 'I'm about to sell my 1/1mln shares, but please go first if it offends you?'.
Get real fella. This is capitalism.
I liked this understandable article from June.
https://medium.com/acalanetwork/pendulum-and-amplitude-integrate-with-acala-to-bring-ausd-to-the-polkadot-and-kusama-based-b9754706b43a
Big names due to be dropped thru socials…. That will help its association.
Ah I signed up for the ambassador but then gave up too much effort for me!
There isnt really a set formula for valuing a new ICO but lots of things will be taken into consideration such as the potential market, the service or product the token can provide, the current market conditions, comparable tokens and lots more, projected supply and take up and loads more - in simple terms I have no idea what they will come up with:-)
but based on the fact that the presale raised USD5m for 20% at the PEN presale IE 40,000,000 PEN tokens that would value a PEN token then (before anything had been developed) at USD 0.125 so I think it is safe to assume the ICO should be higher than that.
One word of warning here. The current crypto space, whilst starting to move again is not conducive to high valuations so I wouldnt be expecting a huge market cap from the off. But if a project gains traction and highly utilised it is not unusual to see a X50-100 growth over time (needs a bull market and a successful project)
Pendulum Questions and Answers
They not keen to buy my shares….NT
They know it’s a top up for Argo!
So when our PEN tokens are tradeable, how do they get allocated value, does it sit within the total value of Polkadot , or does it have its own specific allocation of value, and how will that be allocated? If it is a separate entity, what does Polkadot get from PEN for using their ecosystem? Just thinking out loud really and trying to gauge where we will be upon tradeable launch...
Cheers Ragnarr. Going to be an exciting month or two.
If you havn't already done so then well worth reading the article below;
https://medium.com/@CalendarDefi/new-defi-projects-pendulum-493bad51e378
GLA
Reachforthestars - Yes - the whole Pendulum project is to create a whole ecosystem build on the blockchain for AMMs, lending protocols, stable fiat tokens, yield optimizers, on/off ramps etc, and the larger the ecosystem grows the more transaction fees are generated.