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I don't understand the market maker setup. Others know more. It has always felt like added manipulation to me, but others swear this is not the case and the MM's are 100% innocent.
@ArgoBull - I'm addressing this to you - but if anyone 'knows' I'm interested to hear.
Don't the market makers have a role in setting price. For example - opening price higher than prior day closing price (+ve RNS, macro news etc etc). So why do the MMs not raise the price with BTC rise. It's not just about supply and demand for shares.
Indeed!
I think today's drop is partly down to people trying their luck on more exciting opportunities (and probably getting burnt in the process). Some will have taken money out to try getting rich quick on Coinbase tomorrow. Otherwise it feels mostly like a tree shake.
@ArgoBull... same here. I'd be responsible for HL and Hfx being listed.
I see VLRM did +105% (earlier today) and is now +5%. That's going to leave some nursing 50% losses whilst yesterday some were 100% winners and others were 200% winners (earlier today). So is ARB red down to PI hot-money chasing the next hot stock?
Don't know to be honest - either a data glitch or for some reason HL & Interactive Investors (and other platforms) don't show on these lists. But looking at the Morning Star list we'd definitely be on it even it I was the only one holding ARB via HL!
@Argo - yes I recall this. So given HL nominees is not on ARB website or Morningstar, they've all sold or there's a data glitch ??
Bullmarket, an older SEC filing from Argo shows it (see last page). Obviously this figure is now completely out of date though:
https://sec.report/otc/financial-report/268005
I don't know where you would find the current information for this though.
@ArgoBull... should be on the Morningstar List and isn't. Should be on ARB website.... and isn't. Conclusion ??
There's no double-counting as such. The system that pulls the data pulls a Tier 1 and Tier 2 organisationally. Ain't smart enough to understand organisation structure. Here the holdings for Amplify Transformational Data ETF under Amplify Investments LLC. Pity ARB not higher up the holdings list. But same as RacingCyclist's earlier post Mara seems to be flavour of the moment.
https://etfdb.com/etf/BLOK/#holdings
Bullmarket, HL would definitely be on it as many of us here have bought via them. Do some googling and see if you can find it.
Thanks Hydrogen - this page has similar info (albeit two of them are double counted), and shows a date of 31st March, so suspect this is updated monthly.
https://www.fidelity.co.uk/factsheet-data/factsheet/GB00BZ15CS02-argo-blockchain-plc/profile
Once Albert is officially recognised as an institution he'll be on it :)
Miton makes sense being there as a placing participant, but the others, lord knows where they come from.
And what of nominee accounts?? PIs invest via Hfx, HL, AJB, other platforms, I would have expected at least one nominee account to be on the list. Heck 25,000 shares is 0.01% and that gets on the list. At that rate Bull Market should be on the list (in a nominee account).
Albert why arent you on this list haha
So Timis has quite a gang of shorters!
That data's source is:
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xlon/arb/ownership
No idea where they get this info from though and whether it changes day to day.
The time period is important. If those sales have gone through in the past month or two then that would explain why the price is being held back. But without knowing a time period the data isn't much use. They could have sold 3 months ago.
Here is the link:
https://charts.stocktwits.com/production/original_314970257.png
Not sure what time period this is over but Jupiter have sold 9 million shares, may explain the weird price action.
A pic been posted on Stocktwits showing a bunch on large institutions have sold