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''For me, buying back 21.5% of its stock could boost Vodafone shares significantly over the next 12 to 18 months''
A bit of a different view to those who think that buybacks will reduce market cap.
Https://www.fool.co.uk/2024/04/08/back-below-70p-can-the-vodafone-share-price-clear-1/
Very quiet on here tonight after a good recovery for the sp. We need to get back to 70 plus soon. Just because there are morons on here who want to take over this forum, please don't stop posting?.
20yr return +75% = A.P.R. 2.85% So not great. It is impossible however to work out the return on vod over 20 years because of .the complex nature of the verizon sale, share split, spec divs, etc. It depends what you did with the spec div, your verizon shares, mannesman, etc. etc. There is a lot of fake info out there about the historical vod share price, I know because I have extensive records of vod for most of the last 20 years or so. mannesman was very complex & a complete dissaster for vodafone.
Mole
''20 yr return +75%''
that's good - about the same time as I have been invested in Vodafone , although I never include dividends as part of a capital position. So my current capital position is that I would need a little rise from the current share price to get to an average share price.
I do not have a separate record for the Verizon - I can only assume that they had an automatic sell option for Verizon shares? the proceeds of which were amalgamated in my total capital returns figure that i used in my Vodafone records at the time when shares were also consolidated
Mole. You omitted to say "past performance is no indication of future performance". But interesting charts, although I think most of us new already that vod has been a very bad investment in the past.
Vod closing Sp 12th April
Newsid 66.3p
Tars 73.14p
Robleo 73p
DarthT 67.8p
Exil 68p
Curtin 71p
Goatilcious 67.98p
Added to list Entries by 12pm Mon
Mole, do you have a link for trading charts
Cheers
TradingView charts allow you to include dividends. Very handy for deciding if a div stock has been worth it.
So including divs, VOD
5 yr return -31%
Since VZ high -53%
10 yr return -47%
20 yr return +75%
SP500 inc divs 20yr return +570%
There are better ways to get an income than VOD divs.
67.98 please
71p for me please Roofer
68p for me please Bob
Thanks for your response. Think I may need to break the Excel out. Dividends from both over the years have been solid. Wondered if the divs have compensated for the reduction in share price.
Sorry that should read Utter Tripe.....
GutterSnipe. Do you post on here while you are having a ruby doo? Could explain a lot? Don't forget to wash your hands!!
Sotonspike. "Thank goodness for a bit of civility" I think it is catching on" Even L.S.I. is joining in? Anybody else who wants to join in & be civil? Sorry, no offence meant. Happy Monday.
If the Vodefone companie bye more shares it be like any ovver buyyer, folks buyyin shares makke it go up.
Likewisse if they has a rights issue and you downt buy in, you gets dillutted and the share go downe.
You is lefft lookin like a skint boat cos you dint bye any cheep shares and tha share price have fallen.
Remmemmber, it's bye low sell high allways.
Dyor
Down't put of a ruby doo
I realise sotonspike sounds like guttersnipe, but although he can be funny?! We should not encourage him/her/it. (by his own confession). Cheers mate. I am still waiting for that drink you offered me a long time ago? I turned at that pub you said, but you were not there!
Biskit. You almost certainly would be well down. The maths is very complex however. As for the deal being good, that is a different question. If you had bought at anything below £2 before the verizon deal you could have sold at about 2.48 just before the deal, or after the deal for about 1.30 per original/2.48 per new share taking in to account the roughly 4 to 7 share swap. This share swap loss in shares was compenseted by free verizon shares & special divi/payout so a good profit, & had you sold the vod shares but kept the verizon shares for about 5 years then sold, you would have a made very good profit. Verizon shares are about the same now as when the deal was done, but as we all know vod shares have collapsed by over 2 thirds. But this is history, so it is the future that counts, can the sp get back to £2 plus, who knows but it would be a quantum leap. Good luck to all vod shareholders.
Dan it gets tiresome reading the rubbish spouted on here ...At least Utter Tribe has a sense of humour....
LTI, I just hope this can change direction and work out for all of us, and let's hope it can be as rewarding as other investments, I will just use Aviva as one example as i spoke to you on there the other day, it's a bit of a journey into the unknown with this one isn't it, let's see where we are after the May results
Sotonspike. Welcome back, where have you been? I might get the hump on Monday though if the sp plummets, so be warned! Happy Mondays!
Rob
''not sure LTI will be pleased about it rising though ?''
I would be equally happy if the Vodafone share investments were conducted at as low a price as possible to remove the right of a greater number of current shares as possible , to investor returns - and equally happy if it went to 80p , 90p , £1 + in the shorter term for those investors wishing to exit.
Waiting for MAY 14th unless it goes down to 62p beforehand ,in which case I would be buying more.
Thank goodness a bit of civility......
73 for me please roofer, i want Director Dan to make a profit on his top up, not sure LTI will be pleased about it rising though ?
Only joking LTI
Thanks roofer