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Angus Energy Share Chat (ANGS)



Share Price: 3.25Bid: 3.10Ask: 3.40Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Angus Energy
Spread: 0.30Spread as %: 9.68%Open: 3.30High: 0.00Low: 0.00Yesterday’s Close: 3.25


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Oiler87
Posts: 213
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Thu 02:57
"but a good 400+ bopd from Brockham will easily value us at 15 or 16p."

Personnaly i would think brockham would need to deliver alot more than 400bpd to justify a Mcap of over £80,000,000.
 
E_AL
Posts: 947
Premium Chat Member
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Thu 02:17
Please ignore the post below ... my reply got posted twice by mistake :/
E_AL
Posts: 947
Premium Chat Member
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Thu 02:14
I totally agree with you that angus is currently undervalued but you should only blame the founder of the company for the the ongoing negative sentiment .. he shorted his own company, never delivered, sparked a coup to satisfy his ego & to cover up for his impotence. ebut I wouldn’t have referred to DL if I was you. No investor took advantage of his involvement with Angus like he did. He got overpaid for rubbish Lidsey then forward sold his shares for premium before the fundraising... check what someone tweeted about him recently :

https://twitter.com/JohnAnderson_10/status/1134859679421599745?s=20
E_AL
Posts: 947
Premium Chat Member
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Thu 02:14
I totally agree with you that angus is undervalued (current sp vs. assests) but you should only blame “the founder” of the company, Captain America for the ongoing negative sentiment .. He shorted his own company, never delivered, sparked a coup to satisfy his ego & to cover up for his incompetent.. his irresponsible actions dragged the sp all the from mid teens to all times low.

I also wouldn’t have referred to DL if I was you, no investor took advantage of his involvement with Angus like David Lenigas. We overpaid him for rubbish Lidsey then he forward sold his shares for premium just before the fundraising...check what someone tweeted about him forward selling his shares :

https://twitter.com/JohnAnderson_10/status/1134859679421599745?s=20
RealAnalyst
Posts: 1,283
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Thu 01:30
The market is seriously mispricing and undervaluing Angus-so yes I do expect to see this hit mid to late teens again in a few month's. It rapidly recovered from 4p to 16pvin just a few months last summer.
Yes there had been dilution, but a good 400+ bopd from Brockham will easily value us at 15 or 16p.The monster flows at Balcombe aren't even factored into the sp.They had to choke back the flows to 1539 bopd because the pump was far too small for the 3000 barrels in the pipe.
An efficient market factors in existing knowledge about any company into the share price.The market had been woefully inefficient at factoring in PROVEN flows ,and yes there most certainly had been manipulation-MMs holding the price down so they can short their own stock.I agree with DL that this should be banned.
In fact,I'm amazed really that even those useless incompetents Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling didn't regulate AIM properly after the financial crash of 2008.
And yes any LTH selling at these prices and realising massive losses is an idiot.
Crocqman
Posts: 422
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 20:28
Yanis,
Like many, I am disappointed with the current price.
I think it is down to lots of things, lack of sentiment, confidence in the bod (old and new), communication, delays, etc.
The previous highs were based a lot on hype, excitement amongst PI's pushing it higher without any substance, just the potential (which, of course is still there).
Almost 7 months on from the famous 'switching on of the taps' and we are still waiting.

You mentioned the gas acquisition and GL stating this was worth 4p. This still may not happen and I don't think the market particularly likes the prospect of this, certainly not most PI's on here, it seems.
I have posted before about this being a high risk, low reward opportunity, an unwanted distraction, and see a lot of up front investment for what may not be any returns until mid-2020, maybe longer. I don't see it funding existing work programs like it has been suggested.

Not saying there is not manipulation, but I don't think it is a widespread in AIM as many seem to think.
This is a PI share and folk want to see actual results now, the bod need to deliver. PI's maybe see better opportunities elsewhere currently and see this as too high risk as things stand.

Apologies for the long post. A bit rambling, but not a de-ramp. The potential is still there and I hope they can deliver soon, but folk waiting for multi-bags may be in for a long wait.
Far too many unknowns to accurately value the company at present imo, hence we are where we are.
gla
Yanis2005
Posts: 1,236
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 19:34
Crocqman, you too believe that Angus at below 4p is market evaluation? ... and not market manipulation?
Crocqman
Posts: 422
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 19:29
Edit.
I meant Maltloaf's 18:54 post
Crocqman
Posts: 422
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 19:12
Maltloaf,
The folk saying everyone is mad selling at the current prices were also telling people they were mad selling when it had fallen form 16p to 14p, telling everyone this was unquestionably going to 20p and beyond.

Agree totally with your 18:02 post.
Yanis2005
Posts: 1,236
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 19:04
MaltLoaf, market values this at below 4p?

You really did not see anything suspicious in the trading pattern since the placing?

What is it that suddenly changed?

Just by adding another 70 million shares? SP over 6p ... drops to below 3p ... and then stays at around 3p ...

The SP stays at all time low range created by GL.

What did change? According to GL the pending Gas Field deal is worth 4p - why are we suddenly below that?

The pending Brockham test should see the SP pushing up ... but the SP is pushing down - why?

You really think that this is market valuation? ... And not market manipulation?
MaltLoaf
Posts: 335
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 18:54
The value gets sucked out by dilution. But the LTholders don't seem to acknowledge this and keep expecting the sp to regain lost ground. If the market suddenly values this at below 4p, then you have to be realistic on how much it would climb now. Look how ukog have decimated their sp over time.
Yanis2005
Posts: 1,236
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 18:02
MaltLoaf, Angus was at 37.75p ... without Balcombe.

A return to at least the the mid-20s was reasonably expected.
MaltLoaf
Posts: 335
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 17:59
RA, if this was 5p June 2018, did you not see sense at selling at 16p. The mind boggles. Are the long term holders really expecting miracle returns? 200% in 6 months would the final exit point of most sane persons.
CaptainStanley
Posts: 2,448
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 13:53
I guess that would be an incentive for management not to let the share price rise much? Still as you say unlikely, particularly with partners invested too.
RealAnalyst
Posts: 1,283
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 13:16
Me too,happy to take 16p..kicking myself at that sp in late October.
I'm glad that rule exists,otherwise they'd screw us over and basically rob us at this way oversold price.
scallywag3
Posts: 1,262
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
RE: may be they plant to depress it
Wed 12:58
J.T has earlier denied that rumour. ( doesn't mean a thing ) However, I read up on taking a company private and they have to offer the highest that the sp has been in the last 12 months. and apparently. most companies who do, actually pay a lot more than the 12 months highest sp. I'd be happy to take the 16p that it was in December.

As for us not hearing anything of late, there is nothing new for us to hear, we have been told next week, what else can they say?

We possibly have some firm desperate for cash and selling, this is making it feel and look bad. it'll pass.
it might actually be best to switch the computer off for a week.
BigTen4
Posts: 358
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:3.30
may be they plant to depress it
Wed 11:39
so badly and then take it private




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