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If you own shares in IEH, you own part of their IP. If and when that IP is monetized, you supposedly get your cut. The IP was valued at over $1 billion. It's worth what you can get for it of course but there would need to be huge dilution of this to offset the value of the IP. This is why I never sold my shares. IEH was not on AIM so, in theory, shareholders have more protection. I've seen doom and gloom RNS from IEH before .... I\m not suggesting a company would ever want to de-ramp its own shares to flush out investors .... but I think it may have happened .... If I ran a company and wanted to buy back shares in my own company, I might put out a negative RNS to induce people to sell ... especially before Christmas ... when PIs might be inclined to sell everything for washers rather than see shares become worthless .... I've seen this before with this company ... but I bought into it because of the value of the IP ..... read all the RNS and then go back to IEH RNS .... I'm holding ..... and waiting for the IP to be monetized and for my cut of that

If you own shares in IEH, you own part of their IP. If and when that IP is monetized, you supposedly get your cut. The IP was valued at over $1 billion. It's worth what you can get for it of course but there would need to be huge dilution of this to offset the value of the IP. This is why I never sold my shares. IEH was not on AIM so, in theory, shareholders have more protection. I've seen doom and gloom RNS from IEH before .... I\m not suggesting a company would ever want to de-ramp its own shares to flush out investors .... but I think it may have happened .... If I ran a company and wanted to buy back shares in my own company, I might put out a negative RNS to induce people to sell ... especially before Christmas ... when PIs might be inclined to sell everything for washers rather than see shares become worthless .... I've seen this before with this company ... but I bought into it because of the value of the IP ..... read all the RNS and then go back to IEH RNS .... I'm holding ..... and waiting for the IP to be monetized and for my cut of that

One might ask why DrDaz's research can't uncover this? "Intelligent Energy is a fuel cell engineering business built on 30 years of PEM fuel cell development. Following acquisition by Meditor Energy, part of the Meditor Group, in October 2017 it is now undergoing a period of increased investment and expansion of its product offering." Current news from the company's web site.

Post evidence IEH was listed on AIM.

Post evidence IEH was listed on AIM

HTTPS://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/09/27/intelligent-energys-automotive-fuel-cell-products-showcased-at-evs31/

HTTPS://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/09/04/intelligent-energy-launches-new-800w-fuel-cell-product-for-commercial-uav-market/

HTTPS://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/09/06/intelligent-energy-fuel-cells-selected-for-avid-epg-groups-remote-power-products-in-australia/

HTTPS://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/10/01/intelligent-energy-and-tcp-ltd-taylor-construction-plant-launch-off-grid-hydrogen-fuel-cell-power-product-designed-to-meet-the-changing-needs-of-the-construction-industry/

HTTPS://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/10/15/intelligent-energy-signals-intent-as-it-appoints-david-woolhouse-as-its-new-chief-executive-officer-to-lead-business/

HTTPS://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20180927ptan20180273194.php

this one features Henri Winand's work too. The main reason for buying into this was the value of the IP. If the IP is ever worth what it was valued at, it'll take dilution on a massive scale for even those who bought in years ago to make money. HSBC just bought into this. Not a mega huge investment but 2 point something million shares I think. Others have been selling but if you own shares in this, you should really look at the value of the IP or old chat boards covering deals done on HFC IP. Constant new news about new catalysts for producing hydrogen more cheaply. Google it. IEH are still producing new products and have just inked a deal to work with an Australian outfit ... will post links ...

More detail please ... IEH simply changed its name to LBP didn't it?

digiman.eu/index.php Intelligent Energy are the technical lead. We should be a year into the project by now. "IE has presented the DIGIMAN Project at the 14th International Hydrogen & Fuel Cell Conference (CCSHF2018), Birmingham, UK in March 2018" "25th January 2018: Intelligent Energy team presented the DIGIMAN project during the Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Energy Summit, organised in Brussels, Belgium..." "DigiMan 18M progress meeting The DigiMan 12M progress meeting is held on 6th-7th June 20178 at Toyota Motor Europe facilities in Zaventem, Belgium" I wonder if IE managed to get any IE intellectual property into the HFC design?

http://www.intelligent-energy.com/careers/current-vacancies/view/senior-electrical-electronics-engineer-1/ plus this http://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/05/17/airbus-wins-german-aviation-innovation-award-featuring-intelligent-energy-fuel-cell-stacks/ and this http://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/company-news/2018/04/25/intelligent-energy-to-showcase-modular-fuel-cell-technology-for-commercial-uavs-at-auvsi-xponential-2018/ and this could be HUGE HTTP://www.intelligent-energy.com/news-and-events/industry-news/2018/05/31/sdk-supplies-low-carbon-hydrogen-made-from-used-plastics-to-hotels-fuel-cell/ and this http://www.autonews.com/article/20180611/OEM05/180619981/morry-markowitz-hydrogen-fuel-cell

Intelligent Energy Holdings' patent portfolio was valued at $1.1 BILLION. I never sold my shares because, after doing some maths, it would take a huge amount of dilution to erase that kind of value (do the maths). I haven't been as busy as I should be seeing if new patents are still being granted to Intelligent Energy / LBP and since this company is still on the main stock exchange (as far as I know) this is safer than AIM (which a lot of people assume this company is listed on). I'm not suggesting you buy or hold or sell .... I just think you should look through the chat on the old IEH chat page and do some research. Generally, hydrogen fuel cells make more economic sense as oil goes up in price. Oil IS going up in price which bodes well for HFCs. It seems MEDITOR have more or less mothballed the company and are waiting for the world to catch up with the tech the patents to which IEH own. Another point to consider is IEH/LBP's tech will constantly be used in new patent applications .... a bit like any patent that involves a wheel has to cite the entity which owns the IP to "the wheel". Because IEH have been involved with HFCs and associated IP for years, it's almost inconceivable that as HFCs become more widely adopted (trains make huge sense ... using electric trains driven by HFCs on non electrified lines meaning gaps in the electrified network can be traversed at the flick of a switch .... who knows ... the running of comms towers by HFCs may become more attractive as diesel becomes more expensive as oil prices go up ... and diesel becomes more attractive to fuel thieves in remote communities. Adoption of Hydrogen IS growing ... slowly but as air quality becomes more of political issue ..... and as the reality of tarmaccing green belt to provide charging fields for cars (imagine how many of those will be needed round the M25? It's not going to happen) ... the logic of hydrogen powered stuff grows. Anyway ... find the citations valuing IEH's IP at $1.1 Billion and do the maths ... shares ... CLNs etc..There is potentially a lot of value in here and I can't be alone in hanging onto my shares because of the upside of the IP. Also, I think a project IEH lead has just reported to the EU regarding the mass production of HFCs for use in European cars. If IEH IP is used in those HFCs ... well, it's obvious isn't it?