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Well hexam the figures are different 😉

Traffic allegedly down 12 pc and overall spend up 4.1, so less people are spending more money if you read into that.

Also inflation last year at this time was around 10 percent, it's currently around 3pc....

How are you translating that inflation figure of last year into the inflation and sales figures of this year?

Exactly what i said yesterday.

Https://fashionunited.uk/news/retail/black-friday-2023-marks-record-online-spending-in-the-uk/2023112572769

In the UK, Black Friday emerged as the most significant online shopping day of 2023 so far, with consumers spending 1.04 billion pounds online, marking a 4.1 percent year-over-year increase.6 days ago

Interesting that those figures from similar web are so vastly different from the true figures for online from those dates..

Daytroll try looking and reading what I write

You may notice that during any price rises I'm not screaming and getting excited.....

I also don't shout about manipulation either...

Solid results will give solid rises...

Better off preparing yourself for a Christmas in the 20s, that's definitely where it's heading unless there is a good trading update beforehand...

Every single rise in the last 18 months has been sold into and this past month's rise was no different....

There has got to be concrete numbers from the company for a sustainable rise....

Maybe try and get a bet on at the bookies as to whether John Lyttle gets the boot or not..... Not many other ceo's of a listed company would survive 2 year's of missed and lowered guidance....

How dare anyone like a poster saying they believe this is undervalued!!!

Absolutely how DAREEEE YOUUUUUU LOL!!

Surely anyone buying believes this is undervalued?? Say mike Ashley for instance.

Maybe they're reading the news.... Record online spending....

https://fashionunited.uk/news/retail/black-friday-2023-marks-record-online-spending-in-the-uk/2023112572769

Shein ipo at over 3 x revenue..... Same as if boohoo ipod today at over 5 billion.... What could possibly go wrong?!

Wolf I think you got out of the wrong side of the bed today.... Woke up thinking you're Warren Buffet?

"Personally I don't care whether Hotel Chocolat is a growth company or not. I think a case can be made either way"

I'm all ears for the case that hotel chocolate is a growth stock?! Baring in mind the company wouldn't even forecast for this coming year.

Tbf happys point about hotel chocolate was a good point.....

It has just sold for 2.5 x revenue and the company makes sod all profit currently. ..

Here is boohoo at less than one 3rd of revenue (making sod all profit currently)...

Imagine boohoo selling for 2.5 x revenue.

Doug i must is correct you - it ended up on 32 ticks.... Quite substantial when there are only about 10 active posters here.

Just waiting on all the insults to start rather than any factual based reply....

So out of all the experts the only explanation of hotel chocolate being a growth company is the fact that mars is buying them?

So if someone bought boohoo tomorrow for 70p a share then boohoo would automatically become a growth company?

Once again hotel chocolate is not a growth company - read the facts

Financial overview. Hotel Chocolat sales slipped 9.6% to £204.5m in the “challenging” financial year ended 2 July 2023 (FY2022) as a result of lower online and international revenues. The previous year, sales had surged by more than a third (+37.4%) to £226.1m, bolstered by a rebound in store sales

"Board believes it is too early to give clear guidance around FY24 prior to Christmas. As such the Board is taking a prudent approach to managing current trading to ensure costs and capital outlay are aligned to sales performance"

You saying someone doesn't know what a growth company is hilarious.... Please see below information about a company you called a growth company...

Financial overview. Hotel Chocolat sales slipped 9.6% to £204.5m in the “challenging” financial year ended 2 July 2023 (FY2022) as a result of lower online and international revenues. The previous year, sales had surged by more than a third (+37.4%) to £226.1m, bolstered by a rebound in store sales

"Board believes it is too early to give clear guidance around FY24 prior to Christmas. As such the Board is taking a prudent approach to managing current trading to ensure costs and capital outlay are aligned to sales performance"

So the board gives the below forward guidance after an already shocking year, yet you say they're a growth company? I'm obviously missing something.

"Board believes it is too early to give clear guidance around FY24 prior to Christmas. As such the Board is taking a prudent approach to managing current trading to ensure costs and capital outlay are aligned to sales performance"

Ohhhhh i started talking about hotel chocolate did i??.... Funny that.....

HappyInvestor100

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RE: £1 by New Year27 Nov 2023 11:03

Ask Hotel Chocolat shareholders and their 170% premium!

WolfofWarks

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RE: £1 by New Year27 Nov 2023 18:40

Happy - This is nothing like Hotel Chocolate which is a growth business.

southcoastbather

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RE: £1 by New Year27 Nov 2023 18:48

How is hotel chocolate a growth business and boohoo is not?

southcoastbather

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RE: £1 by New Year27 Nov 2023 20:16

Financial overview. Hotel Chocolat sales slipped 9.6% to £204.5m in the “challenging” financial year ended 2 July 2023 (FY2022) as a result of lower online and international revenues. The previous year, sales had surged by more than a third (+37.4%) to £226.1m, bolstered by a rebound in store sales

WolfofWarks

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RE: £1 by New YearToday 07:31

You can't judge a stock by a particular moment in time. It's about their potential and where they are in their growth cycle.

Boohoo is a mature company and one of the biggest in it's market. It was a growth stock ten years ago.

southcoastbather

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RE: £1 by New YearToday 08:04

You seem to be giving your opinion as fact there wolf - you have stated that hotel chocolate is a growth stock and that is that.. But the fact is revenue is falling.... The company is 30 years old and has revenue of 200 million.... Hardly growth.

Thin whole thread started with happy saying that hotel chocolate fetched a 170% premium per share when the offer dropped....

Wolf said that was because hotel chocolate was a growth company....

I said how is hotel chocolate a growth company and boohoo is not? (baring the below statement in mind)

"Financial overview. Hotel Chocolat sales slipped 9.6% to £204.5m in the “challenging” financial year ended 2 July 2023 (FY2022) as a result of lower online and international revenues. The previous year, sales had surged by more than a third (+37.4%) to £226.1m, bolstered by a rebound in store sales".

I hope this helps you hexam.