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If there was a jab to reduce being overweight and obese you would take it?
Ever heard of exercise and not overeating.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today. You are lowering your credibility.
The 78,000 is just in the UK by the way.
Rupple thanks for your points. Not smoking in a public place is a good analogy.
But I still don't understand if it was about reducing the risks. Should we prevent obese people from entering or buying food that continues to worsen their health? The answer is no we shouldn't, they know the risks.
Another example, Rupple we don't stop you from smoking even though every year around 78,000 people die of smoking-related illnesses. It is a burden on the rest of the tax-paying society but we let you smoke because it is your freedom to do so.
Barbershop, if it was about reducing risk why don't we reduce the 1,350,000 lives lost every year from road accidents?
Or how about a collective effort to get healthy and reduce the 2,800,000 lives lost from overweight and obesity?
You're very quick to brand something as nonsense but are failing to see the massive contradicting points.
Why do I need greater protection why my survival rate is so high anyway? At some point, you don't need any more protection. E.g you can still get covid after getting the vax but you don't walk around wearing a hazmat suit for greater protection.
If you would care to enlighten me on how you know someone with covid or the vax has immunity then please do...
Just because you are at risk of something doesn't mean you need it. Do you wear a big foam helmet everywhere you walk?
I said, "Barbershop I don't know. But I do know once you have covid or any virus you have much higher immunity than if you didn't have it, that is how the human body works."
You seem very happy to let those who can't have the vaccine go out and do what they want but you seem very reluctant to let those who don't need it because they are healthy and know the risk of not getting it go out and do what they want.
Healthy people die from covid. - true, but they know the risk, for my age group its a 99.996% survival rate. I'll take that
Healthy people pass on covid to others - True, but those who are worried about it are either staying safe or have been vaxxed. So, therefore, an irrelevant point.
Also, it's not time wasted. I'm learning from others opinions
FunInvestor, we are talking about putting something into your body that is not needed. If you are a healthy person and don't need it because you are not at risk. Should you then be able to receive your passport?
Barbershop I don't know. But I do know once you have covid or any virus you have much higher immunity than if you didn't have it, that is how the human body works.
All I'm suggesting is people don't need to tell other people how to live and where they can and can't go.
By bringing in vaccine passports create a society where some people have more human rights than other people just because they are naturally healthier and don't need the vaccine.
What do you mean how do you know? It's a proven scientific fact. That's how the human body works.
Indeed Anti Vaxxers are a very tiny minority, but there are lots of people who don't want and or don't need this vaccine, for another example people who have natural immunity from actually getting covid. Are they allowed to live their life?
Ok Barbershop. In that case, doesn't this relate to FunInvestor's argument? "The vast majority can not be constantly hit for the tiny minority."
Ok FunInvestor, very true, but then it is this way around. If the vast majority (healthy people and vaxxed people) can not be constantly hit for the tiny minority (pre-existing conditions who cant have the vax). Then why can't we all go on our way and live our merry lives?
Hi Barbershop, that's a very interesting spin you've put on it and I do see and understand your logic.
However, by bringing in the vaccine passport aren't you still preventing those who can't have it from experiencing their liberties to live freely?
On a side note example, I know serval people who can't have it for medical reasons and go about their daily lives without trying to impinge on other peoples freedom.
You do realize many people can't have the vaccine due to pre-existing medical conditions. Are you suggesting they be segregated from society?
If you've got that vax great if you don't have the vax great as well. Everyone can choose to take on their own risk. I really see no point or need to go to the effort to introduce the passports. Any people feeling vulnerable would have had the vax already and are therefore safe.
I know a lot of people don't like what he has to say. But gotta give him credit Big C has been right more times than most.
Guys remember the iTrader troll everyone was entertaining a while back. After all his talk it was finally found out that iTrader was "trading" with about £50 at a time. I reckon Pawelbak, if not the same person is also "trading" with insignificant funds.
I completely agree. Start of a massive bull run about to happen