Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
Ross Pearson was with Star Energy (mkt cap. £12mm) until December 2023. He appears to have jumped out of the fire into the frying pan.
Yes, Bubblepoint. And the only new info was that geothermal is back on the stove. Miles back. Mr. Herbert was OK, he’d probably written the presentation but Comrade Zielicki, drafted in presumably to speak for Carlos, seemed not to have thought much about it, sort of, in advance. The new management has reversed course on dilution. Any new spending once the small loan surplus is exhausted will be paid for in shares. Then off they’ll go, chasing more unicorns round Poundland for all they’re worth - you saw the pictures, now here’s the bill. By the way, we may need a share consolidation when the price reaches 0.22p. Well, if you want a market cap. of £100mm.+, you’ll have to pay for it, won’t you?
I didn’t take part but did the Directors who said the shares were worth 5x their current value say how many they were buying?
Schadenfreude.
Ocelot: that purchase of 10% of the outstanding shares on behalf of the EBT, in order to get the recent resolutions through, was a paper transaction. It was financed by a loan from the trustees. What are the chances they’ll be cancelled in the event of insolvency?
Asimpleinvestor: yes, quite. I dare say they’ve tried to raise money through asset sales but been given the horse’s laugh wherever they’ve pitched up. They’re in an extremely miserable situation, other than that the owners of the company are continuing to pay their generous salaries and emoluments.
Bubblepoint: I haven’t noticed an improvement under the new management. It still seems that it’s being groomed either for a very cheap takeover or the even cheaper exercise of their loan covenants. Tomorrow evening’s presentation should be interesting. I wonder if anyone will have asked what the total cost of the sidetrack was, or what are the terms of the Trafigura offtake agreement and the replacement for the Mercuria forward contracts. Or why it has been unnecessary for the apparent concert party of Aleph, Kemexon, Knowe etc. to make a formal bid for Angus.
Dear oh dear, GSA Capital Partners really don’t fancy the prospects here very much, do they?odd that they’re involved, really, it’s a tiny position by their standards. Possibly a fund manager having some fun on his personal account.
WG818: well done! Yes, now we’re left with a board, with one exception, with Russian connections. How long will the exception remain? He knows the detail of what’s happened here, so it may well be expedient to retain him.
Ocelot: very amusing. The Earl of Clanwilliam can take great satisfaction from the debt-ridden balance sheet, the management’s decline into Trappist silence, the lateness of and over-spending on everything they've attempted, the huge increase in shares in issue - with more to come - and the all- time low share price. Good stuff. It didn’t take him long to get the hang of AIM, did it?
Stockportedd: what would Vast use for money to do any of these things? And if any of these assets had a positive value, why have they not sold something/farmed it out. Vast themselves have said they’re reliant on the parcel of diamonds just for repayment of their long-overdue debt. Where they’ll get cash to invest in its absence is not clear, they’re living hand to mouth as it is.
Do you seriously believe they’re going to get the parcel of diamonds? And if they do, will they be the same diamonds they deposited more than ten years ago? I should have thought these considerations should be at the forefront in any investor’s analysis of the investment case here. Call it deramping if you like - it’s you who’s losing money in this. My view hasn’t changed since I first looked at it a couple of years ago, when the share price was at 0.30p (pre-consolidation).
It appears that GSA Capital are not expecting good news on the parcel of diamonds front in the near term.
HITS: he’s been a stockbroker and promoter. Always on the sell side. In other words, he works for the companies he’s promoting, not for investors. That’s all you need to know about Malcy. His interviews with The Earl of Lucan were just embarrassing. I’d rather see Mrs. Merton interview these AIM CEOs.
..mark to market, not market to market. Spell check.
Ocelot: you should be ashamed of this post. Angus are still losing money, the huge profit you quote is merely a market to market value of the derivative contracts vs.their huge loss position last year. You know this full well.
HITS: the expression “debt structure” is largely obfuscation. It’s not the structure, it’s the constantly growing quantum that’s going to drag Angus down. Unless there’s a big rally in gas prices. And we’ve still got no idea of what’s in the Trafigura offtake contract.
One or two mugs on here appear to subscribe to the late Eric Morecambe’s old dictum: “Ernie and I split everything right down the middle - 60/40. I’m no fool - he pays more tax”.
There’s nothing here on the terms of the Trafigura offtake agreement. There’s very little, it seems to me, that Angus can do now to improve profitability. They’re in the hands of the gas market and of the ability of the increasingly depleted Saltfleetby field to maintain production at levels which will service their liabilities and pay for a new well.
It’s good to see that the executive directors are now receiving proper AIM-style remuneration for their efforts.
Speed-dating style research sounds just the ticket. What is it?
HITS: I think, as you know, that you’re right about the resolutions. The point about Angus now having to go to their major shareholders before they have a rights issue, however, is that those shareholders can say no, and that will cut off any recourse Angus may have thought they had to new capital - from anywhere. If they were to go ahead with a rights issue without the approval of the major shareholders, they’d have to hope their existing small shareholders would stump up yet more of their money to support the company. It’s one thing for retail investors not to want to realise a 90%+ loss. It’s another wanting to add to it. The amount Angus would raise would probably not reward the effort, other than giving most of the proceeds to the company’s broker etc. There’s no question of getting a rights issue underwritten and I can’t foresee many takers for unsubscribed rights shares. If shareholders in this can’t see that their company is over that barrel again but with bigger debts, an unsupportive gas price and a more depleted asset, it’s a bit sad. With any luck, we should find out soon what further concessions Angus have had to make to attract Trafigura to replace Mercuria, with a larger loan. I don’t think the small shareholders here are going to see any return whatsoever from their investment in this now.
Firwood: your post is gobbledegook. Do you always express yourself in this way? If so, you must be a trial to those close to you. I don’t want to try to decipher your output again, so it’s in the bin for you.
There’s no guarantee they’ll get the diamonds even after paying a bung. If the RBZ fail to produce them, what are Vast going to say? “ This is outrageous. We paid them a substantial bung in all good faith and they’ve welched”? That would be a police issue and would require resignations. The Directors would be persona non grata in the US and in Zimbabwe and subject to police, LSE and FCA investigation in the UK. It’s possible considerations along these lines are what Vast mean when they refer to “protocols” etc. It’s more likely the diamonds were part of Mme. Mugabe’s generous first class cabin baggage allowance quite a while ago.
It’s more fun discussing the parcel of diamonds than any of the rest of Vast’s £200mm. of assets though. Why don’t they just sell 5% of those and clear their debts? Or even 50%. That would be something.