RE: Small glimmer of hope?10 Sep 2021 12:52
"Morning nobull, new here and probably naive, but interested in your view. With EBITDA running potentially well above $60m usd this year, interest costs of around £25m, capex running around $10m annualised, surely the company is self financing at least at this juncture? ". Sorry, I can't keep up with all my reply obligations. Yes, it is self-financing now, but I would have thought the market needs to convinced the company is self-financing for the entire cpo price cycle over say a ten year period. The market cap. for the ords probably indicates there is a lot of dilution risk priced in already, the reason why the price to book and price to sales is so low. Obviously if a dilutive equity issue of ords can be avoided, those ratios can normalise pretty quickly by the ords rocketing, I wonder, but the ords aren't going to rocket until the company is really seen to be starting to get the net debt going down on a permanent trend. Of course they need debt headroom at present to maybe get some necessary replanting done, to hold out a bit longer for coal mine sale (no cash coming in from those $38m of loans to the coal mine?) and maybe other things, but things do seem to be improving. If all that dilution risk comes out of the ords price, I would have thought the price to book ratio can double, but WDIK, I'm only a learner investor. You will see on the palm oil price curve here, there is a backwardation with front month considerable higher than back month, probably because soybean harvests are expect to improve in the coming year, but still future palm oil prices are still not bad despite that.
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_information/derivatives_prices?code=FCPO
At the AGM I queried whether the company was being run for the benefit of the investors in the prior ranking finance, and was told politely that the directors were more exposed to the ords., which is true of course. Anyway there is scope for a virtuous circle of falling net debt and rising market cap if palm oil prices stay reasonable. Stockopedia has given us a risk rating of speculative and an investment style of "value trap". The last is a lagging indicator in my view, so I expect that to change to "turnaround" due to their algorithm, which probably only kicks in after the share price has risen to 70p, so I'm not put off by that. Their investment style on GKP has flip flopped with small movements in the share price. Not long ago after the big rise turned to pull back, it became a "momentum trap", and then a period of sideaways movement became "neutral style" and then last week after good H1 results that sent the price up about 30% it became "super stock", so not a great deal of good as a predictive indicator. I will have to re-work my forecasts for REA in the light of the results, but I can't at the moment see why they can't make a small profit attributable to the ords. for FY2021. Wigwammer, you are right about everything else in your post.