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“ Two different examples where the carrier needs to get into the revenue game & need to make sure heavy users pay towards the network capacity needed to carry them.
Completion (historically) makes both these very difficult because if BT won’t, where they can, someone else will. Look at Three and their unlimited sim deals. Just forces prices down.!! Prices forced down, hurt the biggest network player, because their capacity costs more to maintain / upgrade …. ”
It matters not for network providers what others develop to be transported over the networks, it all adds revenue to the network owner. BT has its expertise in providing a network, other’s expertise is in developing products to utilise that network. BT do not needed to spend money reinventing the wheel, when there are hundreds of companies doing that, competing with each other for the next new thing we all want to send over a network. Using DWDM existing technology we can send 24 separate links over a single fibre at high data rates, up to at least 50 g per service. So the first lets say 10 customers using that one fibre covers the cost of the fibre and the terminal equipment, the other 14 provide pure profit over that one fibre. Why spend on anything but the network when it can generate this level of profit income. This will only increase with time as other people develop, at vast expense, things to be transported over the network. BT has lost vast amounts of money in the past chasing things that are not its primary business, recent example, BT sport. Enough said…
Agree. Garfield removed the £10 per head payment from the company towards a group get together at Christmas. Another moral boost for her staff and gratitude for there efforts each year…
It’s not just the transport of data over BTs network. It’s knowledge of the physical network, it’s routes, points of termination, diversity and separation of closed data networks, monitoring of network breaches, staff that have the relevant security clearance for government, military, emergency services sites and locations. Knowledge of how closed data networks route and interconnect or not with external networks. There are al lot of places that do not exist, unless you have the relevant clearance to know otherwise. These are some of the things that would make it very difficult to just take over BT.
Yes folks, Eeyore is back in his gloomy place…
I will be putting him forward for the next series of, The Apprentice. Not sure if that will be as a candidate, or to replace Sir Alan. So it could be, Sir Aus.
Then again…
Agree with much of what Fleccy has mentioned. For the vast majority of cell sites the Backhaul connection into any core network, is now and will in the future, be supplied by BT. There are and will be a percentage of sites that the final connection is supplied another party, but not that many, especially outside of large urban areas. EE may have appeared to have lost a percentage of the market now, but things can change with the flow of customers constantly changing. Nevertheless BT will still be getting a very good income for that final Backhaul connection no matter who owns the mobile network. Win Win for BT. If more customers move to Vod/3 then they will likely need to upgrade there final connection, in most cases supplied by BT, therefor new work on top of there existing income from the existing networks…
Just seen this.
https://uk.yahoo.com/style/bt-39bn-pension-fund-cuts-180434484.html
It’s good to see you can grasp, now, the basics. I am sure that given time you will see things a bit more clearly, I have a Specsavers voucher, I will happily donate to you. Yes my attention span is short, especially concerning your rambling sometimes, I have many better things to occupy my life. POETS day tomorrow, so I will wish you a good weekend…
Mandyslovechild
“ the latest being copper retrieval, which won't even be complete until the mid 30s. The mind boggles. They must take us all for idiots. What we need is a bid. And soon.”
Daddy clearly did not educated you very well. Removing the cables, be that in the ground or in buildings, is not a case of just ripping it out, quick as can. It requires a degree of common sense
So that answers that question. Go find a quiet place and contemplate it for, say, a year, then come back to us, having spent your time well…
Same old, same old. VM/02 taking over TT, being merged with Sky and Comcast, have a bigger network reach for wholesale, Drahi now out of the picture, but just increased his holding, Amazon the new disrupter, just like VM/02 were the disrupter to the incumbent, John Malone the man who is going to disrupt the whole telecoms market, etc, etc, etc…
None of which has happened in the last couple of years despite us all being told it will happen again and again. How about something positive about BT for a change as a claimed shareholder ,eh …
Unfortunately our current government has many, many, bigger things to sort out, not least their consistent ability to keep getting it wrong. You would think after 13 years the cream would have risen to the top by now…
Numbers from the BTPS in relation to its current position. There were in June 2022, 208855 pensioners receiving their pension and 60107 deferred members, ie not yet drawing their pension. There wear also 16 active members, not sure whether they fall into the deferred number or not, but it’s only 16 so of no real concern. This April section A&B members received a 10.1% rise and section C a 5% rise, section C is limited to a max of 5%. These figures may have a detrimental effect on the current deficit, but let’s hope any index linked investments will have zeroed this out…
Found this today. For once it’s not BT that is considered at fault since 2021 when they voluntarily made changes. Link and some extracts below.
https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/telecoms-firms-accused-overcharging-landline-050029541.html
A trio of telecoms firms have been accused of overcharging hundreds of thousands of landline-only customers by almost £200m, according to research.
Economists at Fideres argue that almost 600,000 UK landline-only customers have been charged “excessive” prices since 2009.
The economic consultancy’s analysis claims that TalkTalk, Virgin Media and SSE collectively overcharged consumers £199m when comparing their prices with rivals.
In 2021, BT agreed a further five-year deal to protect pricing as consumer group Collective Action on Landlines (Call) launched a £600m class action suit seeking £500 compensation for each of the company’s 2.3 million landline-only customers.
Ofcom targeted BT because of its significant market power in the landline market – if a voluntary price cutting agreement had not been reached it could have pursued enforced regulatory measures – and did not focus on smaller players such as Virgin Media and TalkTalk.
“In other words, TalkTalk and Virgin Media appear to also hold market power over their customers, allowing them to set excessive prices.”
Abject. I think you have misunderstood the post. The decision was around the fact that middle and some fairly higher management are still in posts after years of being seen by many employees as less than ideal. I was explaining, with the advantage of having seen this happen in over 33 years as a BT engineer , how some of these managers operate to keep being employed by the company. Not all managers or departments of BT are poor, the majority are very good, but the same names or departments just carry on, to the dismay of many. This especially applies to the old Global services. I remember in the late 90s many of there sales team were sent to the USA for a jolly, all expenses paid. That same year Global made a big loss and went on to do so for several following years. Good management eh…