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"My 2nd choice of Sir John Major X Theresa May for a Labrador Spaniel or St Bernard. nature wise type that's all"

I wouldn't breed them Oxo, they'd probably have congenital defects... the pups would be prone to disingenuous behavior and lies mate.

I'd Breed Nigel Farage and Margaret Thatcher... then breed a female pup of that litter to Donald Trump. It would be the game bred Pitbull terrier of negotiating :-)

"If Mrs Msy geys an agreement.. she'll survive."

You mean an agreement with the EU that then needs to be voted on in Parliament with at least 70 ERG members opposing it. She may survive, but her agreement/plan won't.

I'm not completely certain a No deal would be swamped in a commons wide vote. I think it's logical that it would be. But I'm certain Treason May's plan won't pass through parliament.

Labour want a general election, and a lot of them are actually Brexiteers opposing her plan. Add that to the 70 to 100 (depending on estimates) who are highly likely to Veto her plan in a commons vote and both No Deal and Her Plan could be getting Veto'd.

If both these things happen (which seems likely) then I think she will prove she's a liar yet again by calling a Referendum even though she's said time and time again she wouldn't. I can't see her resigning... she will stay until she has sabotaged Brexit.

And then the penny will finally drop with the majority of Leave voters that the Conservatives can't be trusted. And since 70% of Conservative voters, voted to Leave... they are not going to switch to Labour. UKIP and Right wing parties will get their vote... some won't vote at all.

"Its claimed JRM has 100 backers for no deal / Canada option. Still not enough. Snookered in all directions. Maybe a fluke shot but how?"

They may not have enough backers for their plan. But they certainly have enough backers to vote against Treason May's plan.

unlikely to win the next general election*

"No deal would be swamped in a Commons wide vote. May wont lose a contest even if one is called and it vould ho to.the Torys worst fear of an election"

Well that's debatable. Yes she has more Remainers supporting her than Brexiteers being against her. But there's another factor that needs to be taken into consideration. If she is the Conservatives leader at the next general election, and she some how manages to deliver her Remain dressed as Brexit plan, it's obvious that the Conservatives are unlikely to in the next general election.

That means many of the Tory's in marginal seats, where they just scraped a win and no more are likely to be jobless. I think when it comes to choosing between £74k + Expenses and staying loyal to someone who is likely to cause them to lose that money... they won't choose her.

Strange, I could have sworn that Nigel Farage has just returned to front line politics with the sole intention of exposing Treason May's treachery for what it is.

I could have also sworn I saw the bookies pricing in Boris Johnson as favorite to be the next PM.

https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics?marketId=924.93158353&id=11339499&competitionEventId=28265958&action=loadMarket&competitionId=11339499&modules=multipickoutrightmarkets@1133&selectedTabType=COMPETITION

JayFax,

Then we will have to make compromises in order to deliver the referendum result. If not the aforementioned is likely to happen.

JayFax,

We still don't know how many letters of no confidence have been delivered to the 1922 Committee chairman. There might still be a vote of no confidence to come on Treason May given that the ERG are 70 strong. Although I suspect the angle the ERG is going to take is to Veto her deal when it's voted on in parliament.

Gate13Boy totally agree with what you said too.

"Rees Mogg can't veto May's deal."

The ERG can, as Gina Miller ensured that by going to court to make sure Parliament gets a final say on the governments deal. The ERG are about 70 strong... going by how close recent votes have been, it's not looking good for Treason May's plan.... that's if the EU even accept it first.

"If we don't keep to EU rules on goods, how will we trade in Europe?"

WTO terms. As others have already pointed out on here, our standards are often better than the EU.

She still fooling people today, I'm still seeing people even on here saying "she's doing a bad job", "she's making a pigs ear of it" etc... no she is deliberately trying to keep the UK as much in the EU as possible. It's not happened by mistake, her Chequers plan shows without a doubt she doesn't actually want the UK to leave.

Freedom of Movement is not ending, the detail shows it's lies.
She wants to keep the EU rules on Goods.

And that's just for starters, no doubt the EU are demanding even more concessions.

I said it from day one she couldn't be trusted, other leavers said I should give her a chance even though she voted Remain... she could be like Thatcher etc. She clearly fooled a lot of people.

If the EU accepts Treason May's plan (with concessions) and the ERG carry out Mogg's threat of vetoing her plan... then she might have no choice but to call a general election.

"There is a much bigger chance of Theresa May doing a U turn and having a 2nd referendum if the only other option is a general election."

To be fair I agree with that, she's the worst lying politician I've seen in many years. Farage is right, she says one thing and does another.

And on Rees-Mogg he has already stated the ERG will veto Theresa May's plan if it's not changed in a major way. So even if the EU accepts it, the ERG are not going to.

If the Sweden democrats do anywhere near as good as the polls have indicated, there could be a Sweden IN/OUT referendum on the EU too.

The Sweden Democrats have said they want an IN/OUT referendum.

Yeah, it's not as if 7 of the 28 EU member states have already voted in Right Wing governments.

If it's reversed, that suits me. The Right Wing will take control of power a lot sooner than I expected, we will then leave the EU and start the mass deportations of illegals, radicals and terrorists.