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Snige,

No Snige it won't reduce the indigenous population, it will lower the growth rate of the demographic which must not be named.. The indigenous population has a fertility rate of 1.78 which is below the replacement rate for a population of 2.1. The fastest growing demographic in the UK is from the religion which must not be named... with a fertility rate of 2.9...

So yes that means a very slow population decline if implemented, and it could obviously be tweaked as the figures present themselves. So it's not just a case of reducing child benefit, it's limiting the number of children until it reduces itself.

Free Childcare for "Working parents" should be top of the list. It's not... but I think it's necessary. The demographic which must not be named as higher unemployment than the indigenous demographic... so free childcare would get more women and men from the indigenous population back to work, paying more tax sooner.

I agree, I don't want the border shut. I want proper controls. Net migration was 48,000 in 1997. It peaked at 332,000 in 2015 a 591% annual increase.

The UK functioned before all this immigration, it can be weaned off it, but so far nothing meaningful is being done.

nuts*

Trump is threatening China with tariffs in excess of half a trillion dollars. And you think he's not for saying they are trying to interfere with the election to stop him keeping power.

China has a lot to lose, their Allie Russia has already interfered with the election according to the US Security services, and you think China isn't capable of doing the same?

We both know you don't think this... you're just putting some bait out because his Right Wing politics don't fit with your Left wing politics.

Yes I've read the book. In fact I posted excerpts from it recently. I've done a lot of research on this topic, now I feel like I'm watching a car crash about too happen... but there's nothing little me can do, I just need to watch it and look after my own family.

Most of the population hasn't a clue what the Western world is going to become. And a significant amount of them are so brain washed by the Cultural Marxist media, government, educational institutions... you name it it's everywhere... they have no idea what's coming.

And yes I agree, I think the same on Labour if they are to take power the population needs to learn the hard way.

Snige,

You were very disingenuous. You said "What do think about the £80 billion in cuts to public service's.Prehaps we could dress it up a bit and no one will notice.Suppose we could re-negotiate the contracts with Capita,Mitie,Interserve,push them a bit harder."

The actual policy according to the link you posted is...

"Efficiency savings in national and local government and the NHS. Everyone
who works in them knows there is endemic, horrendous waste. We will give
managers the power and incentives (including a small percentage of the
money saved) to cut the waste. Saving 10% of government expenditure is a
very conservative estimate Saving £80bn"


So the context was not to simply cut public services, but to cut waste from within them. It's well known there is a lot of waste in the NHS.

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers".

For Britain and UKIP don't have my ideas on their Manifesto, but they're the only two parties with any motivation to control immigration sensibly.

The stuff I mentioned before would more than likely amount to many, many billions.

£14 Billion in Foreign aid ended.
£13 Billion in money sent to the EU ended.
So far that's £27 Billion.

Corporation tax lowered, means more money collected in Corporation tax. Yes I know sounds contradictory, but that is what happens.
Lower immigration leading to higher wages means more income tax collected.
Higher prices as a result of the higher wage costs.. means more VAT collected.
Higher wage means more money paid into company pensions.
Less demand for housing from less immigrants means house prices stop rising so fast or correct to sensible levels. This means more money in householders pockets from lower mortgages on new purchases, and more money spent in the economy as a result, with more VAT collected.

Sp in a nutshell, increase wages and lower the biggest cost of living Mortgages and Rents and not only will it improve living standards, but it will put more money in the treasury.

Health insurance is unlikely to rocket for ex pats based purely on WTO terms... they could purchase health insurance in the EU, then there's no tariffs. Even if they're covered by British insurers, what's the WTO tariff likely to be 10%?

Where you getting this £80 Billion from, it's not on their manifesto?

Asperger, please seek some help for your delusions. 50% of that is simply not true.

I say that on the basis of what has already happened in 7 of the 28 EU member states and on the basis of Right Wing Nationalist parties being the fastest growing parties in the EU.

I've said for a while, "if" Labour managed to take power, by the time they've left office, they will have p*ssed so many people off, that both Labour and the Conservatives will be rejected Wholesale.

A right wing Nationalist Party will take significant seats and will play an important role in parliament. But this is still a long way off, possibly 2027 (if Labour gets in and causes havoc)

They will do just fine coming back*

The government hasn't changed their mind. The government didn't decide to leave the EU, the Electorate did. There was no referendum on whether or not to tax diesel cars more, that "was" the government.

I don't feel sorry for these Ex Pats, clearly they have the financial means to go and live abroad. They will come just fine coming back here, biggest upheaval they will have is selling their property in Europe. And this is obviously on the assumption that the EU forces them to go home.

No we will trade on WTO terms, and make trade deals with the other 85% of Global trade.

That figure was for Residential care sorry, not all care... but the biggest cost is residential care. So to be fair and balanced more than 14% will require some form of care... could be some home help etc. So the cost would still be significant... but again there's no guarantee all 1 Million of them would have to come home. The EU won't want 3 Million suddenly coming back either whether there's a deal or not.

And our expats have money or else they couldn't afford to spend their retirement abroad.

Snige,

The higher wages paid to the Brits here will result in higher tax receipts. The lower demand for property would bring to house prices down fast... this means people wouldn't have to make such big payments to new mortgages, the extra money they don't have to spend on mortgages, a significant amount of that would be spent in the UK economy which would result in higher VAT collections.

Off course this would put some people in negative equity (TEMPORARILY).... but gain can no be made with anything in life without some pain. The Ex Pats you speak off, most of them are not skint... they have considerable cash and assets.

Firstly according to Age UK the charity about 86% of Old people will NEVER require care. Only about 14% do... so the care costs associated with older people is over exaggerated. Off course as they age they will use the NHS more... but again, all of the above reasons would yield significant tax income to pay for what you just asked.

There's also about £14 Billion paid in Foreign aid so the Elite of this country can make dodgy deals with some of the most corrupt regimes around the world. With the right government in charge this could be stopped, bringing another £14 Billion back to the UK economy.

Leaving the EU means we don't need to pay the £300+ Million a weak so that's a saving too. If we strike a deal (or No Deal) that allows us to make trade deals with the other 85% of Global trade (because the EU is only 15% of global trade) then we can obviously benefit from those deals too.

The problem is, Politicians are short termists... they only care how they will look whilst they are in charge. We don't have Patriotic Brits in Parliament... well if they do they're not in charge, and there's hardly any of them. If we had a Parliament full of people that actually cared about the long term future of the UK we could make changes like the above.

And who says all 1 Million of them would have to go home. Isn't out PM trying to make a deal where all current immigrants from the EU can stay? If the EU doesn't reciprocate then that just proves what sort of people they are.

Neither EU or Non EU migration is being managed properly. The only two parties who are putting a plan forward to limit immigration is For Britain and UKIP.

If anyone is concerned about immigration neither the Conservatives nor Labour are the answer. The Conservatives have been lying since 2010 saying they will reduce net migration to the 10's of thousands. And we all know Labour will do everything possible to increase immigration, that's what they always do.

Neither UKIP not For Britain will win the election, they'll be lucky to get a single seat. But if they take enough votes from these useless two parties they can stop them taking the marginal seats across the country and stop them holding significant power.... that means more political instability and probably more general elections.

Slowly but surely the right wing vote is going to grow. It's already taken power in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Italy, Slovenia, Estonia and Czech Republic.

It's growing in France and it's growing in Germany. The fastest Growing parties in the EU in terms of vote share are Anti Immigrant/Anti Islam parties.

Mick,

Don't assume that people have been conned. No one has actually made the claim that the Tory's have controlled immigration, in terms of controlling it they simply have no done so... so in that respect I agree with you!

But they weren't the ones that opened the flood gates by abolishing the Opt out of the Freedom of Movement in 1997. The UK LITERALLY had it's cake and was eating it, it LITERALLY had full access to the single market, the customs union but DID NOT have Freedom of Movement.

John Major of the Tory's was the one who actually negotiated the UK's OPT OUT from the Freedom of Movement. Arguably the single biggest f*ck up where immigration was concerned was done by Sociopathic Tony Blair of the Labour party, the Labour party literally said "We want to rub the Rights nose in diversity".

They relaxed immigration laws for Non EU migration too... since Labour took power in 1997 over 80% of the UK's population increase was down to Immigration and the Children the immigration had.

BUT I WILL NOT defend the Conservatives... they have done NOTHING to make a meaningful dent in the immigration numbers. They have lied since 2010 that they would reduce net migration to the 10's of thousands.

Both Conservative AND Labour are useless when it comes to immigration. The Conservatives do nothing to reduce it, but Labour actively tries to increase it... eventually there will be a civil war when clashing cultures make a bid for power. It's human nature.

"over the years that followed the flow continued unabated but by and large alareg proportion of the influx found employment and thus "contributed to society and paid for services used"
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I disagree, a even if a Migrant gets a job immediately if they come here with kids that go to school and use the NHS, Dr's surgery etc it takes them a good number of years before they have paid in enough into the system to cover what they are taking out.

And after they've earned their salary and paid income tax, there's no study that measures the amount of money they are sending as international payments to their home countries, to their families, it doesn't take much imagination to work out that this is probably quite a bit. And it's not included in the "Net Contribution" figures it's claimed they make. In fact there was a study done by one of the lords in the house of Lords if I recall rightly that actually puts the contribution immigration make in terms of tax as "neutral", so they don't contribute more or less than they take.

The figures vary, but it seems common sense to me that someone who has just arrived is going to take a long time to pay in enough into the system if their kids go to state school, they get vaccinated and treated if needed by the NHS, same for the rest of the family.

And for those low skilled workers they probably never pay in enough money into the system. The same could be said of our low skilled workers as it's well know that low skilled workers are subsidised by the overall tax payer. Now that's not their fault, it's the fault of the companies in paying them enough so they make a good contribution to UK finances.

Now that is Marxism I can get behind, the company doesn't lose equity, but they pay more in wages... that way the employee pays more in tax as a result of earning more... the company can pass the cost of this increase in wages on in higher prices... and if we limit the immigration coming the cost of housing will go down due to lower demand which will more than offset the cost in products increasing from the higher wages.

This would also solve the problem of having to pay people universal credit as they would be earning enough to actually have a life, and they'd eventually be able to buy a house if wages rise as fast or faster than property prices.

This country is the 5th biggest economy in the world. But it ranks number 23 on the list of countries by GDP PER CAPITA... this means the money is not spread equally. There are better ways to fairly redistribute it without screwing the economy in the process, the above is one of them.

So the only unhappy people are the people investing in property... those who have bought a house to live in don't care as long as their house is rising or falling in line with everyone elses house.... those that have bought residential property to invest in, well tough... we need less of th

Has just said he doesn't rule out accepting TM's brexit plan if it's a sensible deal. He must be getting worried about being the 2nd referendum party... surely he's seen what happened tp the Lib dems? lol