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I agree with the sentiment! this is not an investment its a punt plain and simple So lets imagine its a horse race...Three runners,, First administration and we all wiped out , next cash offer and we get minimum 3 to one and third all share offer and we get 3/4 bagger in share swap... now in a horse race my couple of grand would have to be on one of them only. Here however i get to back all three and the only way i lose is if horse number one wins the race !!! any of the others romp home and i win. In addition during this race there may be an opportunity to cancel my bet in running !! and take a small win/loss rather than wait for the finish line...All in all yes this is a gamble plain and simple but its a way way way better bet than an actual BET. gla

i will sit on my 104 k now until this plays out! downside wipe out ambitious upside 8 bagger realistic upside 5 bagger as a probably share swap !! my view dyo-gambling :)

I think he knows as we all do to a degree how badly deb has been run! and just how easy a turnaround can be achieved once the property rents ( probably agreed with kick backs!!) have been sorted.

He has nothing to lose by making a formal offer ! if he intends an all share offer or a bid it makes no difference, he may as well low ball the bod with a 4p offer and then later an all share offer as an alternative ?? might he not ? The benefit being the first offer is purely there to make the real ( second ) offer look all the more appealing. Just speculating obviously. So if im correct the first offer is a red herring either cash or shares its the second that is the real deal....but an offer will be made imvho.

85 share bought triggering an 8.5 rule rns ??? How about an 8.5p per share bid tip off ??? :)

Do you know themuir01 when you desist from the rampant snobbery apparent in many of your posts you do seem to have a fair amount of valid points to make! "what bus did you get off " really ? You do know there are thousands of insanely wealthy and erudite individuals in large cities such as Honk Kong, London and New York who frequent public transport ? To attack the messenger and not the message is trite. Aimho obviously, off to grab a bus ttfn.

firm offer 5p to get the poker game started will do ,me just fine gla

"but thinking that MA is in a dilemma between throwing in money to save what he lost (which remains a gamble) or letting it go. " ????
MA WILL NOT LOSE, his is a profitable business so the tax man will lose !!! he may not want to lose and he may and probably does like to win ( driven business people bear similar traits to psychopaths after all ) But to think he is like a gambler chasing losses is very incorrect, whatever losses do or do not accrue are tax deductible, so that aspect is irrelevant !!!

Well im hoping the non conventional MA continues to do the unexpected and catches a few with their shorts down !!!

If he makes firm offer now and succeeds his hand against the bod is very strong, " these are the guys that would have turned your shares into confetti, these are the guys who had run a household name into the ground with their incompetence and these are the guys who would have sold you down the river for the sake of their own pecuniary gain" scans well don't you think ? Hey im hoping for an 8p offer but its still how i would have played it !!

Oh Newcastle was easy to fathom...... All you have to do is win something with Newcastle and the sleeping giant awakens !! the only major city with one premier league team, fanatical customer base, if anyone ever does a man city with Newcastle they will have a goldmine on their hands ??

Initially to make the bod aware that their actual butt are in the firing line ? no wriggling out of corporate responsibility if they are seen to put their own positions above the that of the shareholders? Then later a firm offer which has to be put to the holders and tbh WILL carry any vote especially now as the bod have as good as told the large % and si alike that the bond holders and the bod's severance packages are their priority !!!

making a firm offer and leaving the bod in place for now ??? if he doesn't his stake is wiped out ! if he does he can make the bod position untenable! Oh and MA really does not like to lose, its a common trait amongst billionaires1

If Aberdeen just unloaded 22mil and that amount has been absorbed over the last couple of hours where will this go now that overhang is clear ???

Does that really surprise anyone ?? by simply reading the tone and tenor of a few posts my guess is 5' 4 :)

I don't think somethings " not right" i think they know they have several prospects but also have decided that SHOULD VERBIER not pan out ( i still think its a high probability of success by the way ) but should verbier not pan out we become a wild cat opp with a duster behind us !!! by drilling two others first the high probability of verbier will support the sp somewhat in the event of the first two ( speculative prospects lets call them ) failing to deliver. Now if we hit on first two or either of them then happy days. This is in my view an institutional investor " suggestion" to protect investment and make a lot of sense to me fwiw bol

It said verbier will be third in line and delayed til q4 2018 but the number one and 2 prospects have to be drilled first and as such will presumably still have to be drilled q3 in order for verbier to be drill third in line in q4 ?? so by Q4 two wells will have been drilled THEN verbier. Could be wrong but my guess is drill a couple of prospect and if we hit who hoo but if not then the high probability of verbier success will prevent cataclysmic sp drop! where as if something were to go wrong with verbier ( if drilled first) we become in effect a wild cat and the sp will tank ????? i might be way off here but that's my take, smart business !!!

Totally agree evolution favors those that evolve and consigns the rest to history books :) but take the wrong specialist or restricted evolutionary path like say a cheetah and sooner or later your in trouble. I try to evolve is all but we are all gamblers when it boils down to it just the degree of research re the " form" differs lol

buying in, then opening a cfd however is usually a good tactic! unless external factors effect the sp it usually recovers withing a month to pre ex d date soooo cfd, If sp falls, makes a profit AND a month later sp recovers AND you get paid the divi :) if sp rises like occasionally happens the loss on the cfd is covered by divi and the sp rise obviously. Overly simplistic i agree but more often than not works a treat :) allows you to trade AND be a holder for income, dyor i am not recommending any dang thing fwiw. gla

what goes short must be bought back ! especially this close to a 66p dividend,but looking at the piddly impact this morning starting to look like they shot their bolt. When they buy back i expect a little spike after all they have not managed to push this down by a % even half that of the divi even when aided and abetted by slightly weak first q results. Herd mentality once a few break the rest will follow. All imho obviously and besides micro fluctuations are irrelevant if your holding for the large divi and the larger one next year :) gla