Ory's Latest Interview Part 327 Jul 2018 20:06
EGR Marketing: In April, you acquired WhichBingo for an undisclosed sum. What does this bingo portal, which has been around since 2000, add to XLMedia’s portfolio?
OW: WhichBingo is an established, solid, well-known name in the gambling sector and the UK in general. The sellers and the staff who worked on WhichBingo have done a fantastic job positioning it and definitely feel that it benefits from the scale of being part of XL. We have a lot of interesting opportunities and things we want to do with it. We have done upwards of 20 M&A deals since the listing, so this sits as a solid asset that we have bought and we will put it together with the rest of our portfolio and keep optimising it. We are always looking for assets that weren’t built to sell, and WhichBingo was definitely not built to sell – it was built to be a good comparison site.
XLMedia says there is still an opportunity for large bingo affiliates like WhichBingo
EGR Marketing: How much potential is there still in bingo?
OW: I think there is still opportunity for a few larger players, and WhichBingo is the largest of them. It [bingo] is mainly a UK-centric product and with a certain demographic but it is very stable. [Online] bingo is one of those products that has been around 18 years and it doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. I see it as an interesting one and something that we should have, but in terms of M&A going forward you’ll probably see us do more deals in other verticals.
EGR Marketing: Leading Finnish gambling information company Good Game was acquired for €15m earlier this year. What was the strategy behind this purchase?
OW: The strategy was to continue expanding our portfolio in a market that we have been in for a very long time: Scandinavia. We know how to run these assets, we have the teams and we have the volumes. To take over solid quality assets like the ones we’ve bought, it is quite simple for us in terms of integration. We and our investors love it, and the integration risk is quite low. I’m convinced that the assets we have bought are very high quality and, so far, we are very happy with the performance.
EGR Marketing: Despite all the consolidation in the sector over the past few years, why has XLMedia largely refrained from going on an aggressive shopping spree?
OW: We have been around since 2002/2003 and we have a large stable of assets that we are developing internally as well, so we are not reliant upon acquisitions for growth. And when we guide analysts and the market we don’t really forecast acquisitions – our focus has always been organic growth. Of course, there is an opportunity in the last five or six years with the consolidation in affiliate marketing, but I completely agree that we haven’t been doing it as fast as others.
We have taken a safe and diligent approach, and our leverage level is close to none.