Oh yes, one other aspect I thought worth discussing:
A while ago I noticed that Vertoro had won another EU funding package which seemed to be MSAR-related. It gives us access to some government-provided funding for MSAR Zero (not UK the government, though!).
H2020 (Horizon 2020), EU Innovation Fund, Climate Fund, and other similar funds, are pan-EU projects for funding innovative research and design. They excel at projects which are not practical for a single country to justify funding, but collectively make sense to push forward a particular strategic goal (e.g. climate, technology, etc).
I participated in one in the past, and it's quite common to involve several companies from across various EU countries which lets you draw on a wide pool of expertise.
There are lots of different topics/subjects/projects for which funding is available and the EU wants to focus. You apply to one — often in collaboration with other entities such as companies and universities.
After leaving the EU a company like QFI can't apply for EU funding any more, and the level of involvement allowed is more limited as UK not providing any of the funding. Having a partner like Vertoro is therefore obviously extremely beneficial to us.
See #4 on the list here: https://climate.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-12/pr_20221213_projects_en_1.pdf
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I have not yet been able to figure out how much funding was provided, and how much of that will go towards joint Verotoro-QFI MSAR Zero projects. But, it's a great thing for all involved.
Sorry, the series of question marks is because LSE can't handle UTF-8 emojis, not actually gone tonto with my punctuation.
I agree. But they seem exceptionally averse to the idea ???????. I suspect it's because they don't want to set a precedent and/or have to communicate again if another delay or hurdle comes in.
They get it in the neck for under-communicating, and get it in the neck for communicating and then missing guidance.
I happen to think they're wrong (or their advisers are wrong and are being incredibly overcautious). Better to just update as and when you miss the guidance than just going into silent mode for months at a time.
But, history tells us we're not gonna get any traction on that request (i.e. it's been brought up innumerable times).
Hopefully it will just be a footnote in the near future :-).
Just a few random thoughts on Morocco.
It should become apparent fairly quickly whether the revised estimates QFI have provided on Morocco are accurate, "We anticipate that the remaining logistical issues will be resolved this month so that the trial can then proceed as planned".
Assuming previous guidance on physical trial execution was accurate, it should take no more than a week or two. Hence, we're talking a matter of 2 weeks to unlock the fuel, and then another 1-2 weeks to finish trials.
In general, the team has been very good with estimates and guidance on technical execution, but poor on project management and client management timelines. So, let's see if they can finally get it done after all these years.
I suspect in line with their 'no running commentary' policy they won't tell us when the trial MSAR is freed from Moroccan customs, but I hope they'll make an exception in this situation, given how important that step is...
Hi. Phil Hill did indeed say he expected China. But when a group of us asked Jason later about this, he clarified that while China the likeliest, it could also be India, Turkey, etc, depending on where the soonest available slot was. It was not decided at that point.
Just be aware that the post is from over 3 months ago when Jason attended the conference in Geneva with Prabhat Jha. I don't think the mentioned timings are likely to be valid any more, as Leandra is currently near South Africa and steaming towards Mundra, India.
I truly hope that she'll call into dry dock this quarter.
No, no, it's the triple quadrangle inversion that they missed.
Parts availability was the original reason for delay on the additional Aquafuel optimisation and testing, if I recall correctly.
I don't see why that should be further delayed/blocked, but they've managed to surprise us repeatedly on that front!
His main compensation is a royalty on sales of MSAR. The warrants are a bonus. That said, I'm sure if they will figure out something on the warrants front if/when they get back on track.
I think there's sometimes a bit of confusion about whether a particular situation is caused by NDAs or not.
NDAs are not allowed to override the company's legal requirement to publicly disclose material events to the market. It's a matter of (1) what the company decides is material and needs disclosing; and (2) whether it fits with their communications and business strategy during sensitive times. For example, if they are in the middle of negotiations, QFI tend to keep quiet (and that's permissible, there's plenty of flexibility in the market disclosure rules).
Personally, I doubt anything regarding the current situation is NDA-related, but likely due to their either being nothing to say, or that they are still trying to resolve the situation(s) before making an announcement.
Usually, NDA-related barriers can be worked around with use of descriptors, "Moroccan Client", "European Refiner", etc, etc. As we've seen in the past. Certain details people might want to know would certainly be unavailable.
Bear in mind that the counterparties QFI are negotiating with will also see these RNSes and know it's talking about them, so QFI obviously need to be careful not to give too much away and compromise their position.
That said, I personally think QFI under-communicate, especially when they overrun guidance, and providing an update in those circumstances is not a 'running commentary'.
In my experience in business, most companies will not engage with you unless you sign an NDA to protect their reputation, business secrecy, pricing information, and intellectual property (etcetera).
Just my 2c
She will likely be pulled off her scheduled route when the necessary dry dock capacity and supply agreements are finally signed by QFI. I did put significant caveats when I posted that data on the forums in November that is being referred to.
It's normal for a vessel/asset to be used for normal service until needed for another task to maximise its value. MSC aren't going to leave a valuable depreciating asset idling, they will want to sweat all possible value.
QFI's inability to close out supply agreements with counterparties plus the global crunch on drydock capacity would seem to be the limiting factor(s) at present.
Interesting comment from Panos D Kouris (co-founder Vertoro).
Original post:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/panoskouris_glucose-photosynthesis-dac-activity-7009478497807007744-jOx4/
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Dry docking is a pretty major procedure, but they are incredibly fast at it.
From looking at Leandra videos from a few months ago, she looks pretty rough, so I'm guessing she'll need a more intensive dry docking of 2-3 weeks. SOLAS regulations define how often dry docking is needed (AIUI, it's twice in 5 years, with a maximum gap of 3 years, and min gap of 2 years; extensions can be granted under ).
They will completely strip the paint, apply various treatments and layers of paint to the hull, a wide variety of equipment in the vessel will have a deep inspection and overhaul/replacement where necessary. Basically anything they couldn't do as a running replacement while the vessel was in operation.
Quite common also to do retrofits at the same time, such as adding BWTS, changing bulbous bow, upgrading equipment, adding scrubbers, etc. Seems likely she'll have scrubbers fitted from JM's comments.
Various inspections are also undertaken and quite often classification society representative needs to give her the all clear.
So it's routine, but definitely way more complicated than an MOT due to the extremely harsh marine environment — but conceptually not a million miles away.
I know there are some marine engineers and captains who are QFI holders, so perhaps they can weigh in with a bit of their expertise...
A few pieces we need to fall together before things proceed.
- Fuel supply (conventional and glycerine)
- Terminal and bunkering
- Dry docking
First couple of points we chatted about quite a bit at the AGM during Q&A and afterwards during various group discussions. There are multi-party talks going on to sync up all of these counterparties, trying to get them all to agree to a plan and sign up. MSC strongly prefers to use suppliers and service providers they are familiar with, as I understood it.
The third point is slightly complicated to predict in terms of timing. There's a huge crunch in availability of large dry docking resources at the moment due to China's "Zero Covid" policy causing shipyards to repeatedly close down for extended periods. This has effectively reduced capacity at a time when there was already a backlog — other places do dry docking such as India and Turkey, but the knock-on effect in terms of capacity shortfall is a global issue.
Drilling is lower-hanging fruit re: immediate capex requirements. They heat up the reservoir underground using a simple steam generation method; the heat is trapped into the layer holding the tar sands and insulted by the earth, so it builds up a very significant temperature after a couple of weeks. This melts the bitumen until it starts flowing, and then they pump it out until it cools down; rinse and repeat.
The reason they need so many wells if they stick with huff 'n puff, as ianb has illustrated, is that the heat doesn't travel very far, so your 'range' is rather limited from any given well.
A few shallow wells, gas to generate the steam/heat, various injection and extraction gear, etc, isn't going to cost 180m upfront.
As blackwash says, this is meant to be a 'bootstrapping' technique.
IIRC, the original Maersk LONO began in 2016 — fast forward to 2023 and we'll be on literally the same vessel again.
She's a distinctly middle-aged vessel now!
It's a strange world, isn't it.
IIRC, there was the Maersk Bogor (MAN B&W) POC — and as you all know — Seago Istanbul/MSC Leandra (Wartsila) POC and then Interim LONO.
Supposedly we could get some revenue from Valkor in 1H2023 by selling them an MMU and small-scale production from some existing assets they are operating. I suspect it won't blow our minds!
Nothing you lot don't already know, I suspect
https://www.edisongroup.com/publication/key-role-in-transitioning-to-net-zero/31706/
You'll (possibly) be relieved to learn she's visiting Iraq not Iran.