Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
Lloyds doesnt do international ,the hmgov stopped them,libor is the exchange rates international?
Great idea ,ban day trading [which is the real reason david cameron had to go not ref vote] as well and we can get stability ,if you want to stop day shorting ,if everybody put sell orders on your shares will your broker they [the shorters] would not be able to borrow [which should be made illegal] your shares on a daily basis
I hate consolidation on penny shares as all it normally does is give the bod more wiggle room for more share issues to raise funds , but in lloyds case[dont need funds] i think it would be a very good idea 1 for 20 £8 ish per share that will keep out the unwashed riff raff ,and bring the share numbers down
56 to 65p is the only chance of making losses back ,it was 60 to 70 ,still got a way to go and as soon as break even off skeey,as with lloyds , and capita the days of a rising and staying share have gone the day traders and algos have destroyed the ftse and confidence to stay invested ,before long only computors will be trading we will all be in spoons
Sorry sc
"Put simply, Lloyds have to many shares sloshing around the market and not enough buyers for the stock."
that still doesnt answer the question WHY?
it doesnt matter apart from the amount of holders , less holders= less directions to send the divi too ,
it is only a mathmatical equation £2billion divided by amount of shares ,it doesnt change if you have less shares with the same amount of holders ,if as you say too many shares and not enough buyers ,the more buyers the more directions to send to money too ,
its only idealistic to ex bank managers to have less shares so less work to do if you have less divi letters to post ,but of course it really doesnt matter today as it is all at a press of a button ,as long as the bank is making profit and the amount of holders stays the same it will not make make any difference how many shares there are ,of course [which we are not seeing] if the number of shares goes down the sp or the value of your slice will rise ,one day ten years time ,but to make this more attractive short term [the rest will follow in due time] to encourage investors the bod need to do react pdq, cancel the fairy dust buy backs ,give out a special to pay the longterm holders back for sticking around , as this is sliding down the trusted scale ,with many saying they have had enough , as i have said all my share dealing club have bailed bar me ,so there is about £2 mill less invested and they aint the only ones whos trust has gone , of course this is diluted but by the wrong investors as we noted on friday all other banks held up the gains ,we just got skimmed as normal ,the day traders need to catch a cold and shorters need fingers burnt then we will see sound investment and stability, i never thought i would see lloyds traded like capita or ctea and look what happened to them they way this is going it could happen here too ,have a nice weekend all ,see you monday
Probably all those that claim they have shares at an ave of 24p or less ,dont own any share at all
Does it matter ? the way i see it is half of the money that could come my way doesnt , with the amount of shares out there we [over last 2 divis] are getting 2.5p per year per share , that means with my ave i will get over 7% return ,if no buy backs that would be over 14 % approx ,yes i understand if less shares the bigger slice my holding should be worth but that isnt in my bank account only if i sell up at the right price which isnt happening at the mo with 7 % return , but it wont be long as i have said before i clear off [dont tell me to sod off] ,its wearing thin now no one on the bod is interested in the sh in fact it looks quite the opposite ,i think the 2.5p is very well calculated to keep us suckers hanging on ,and those in negative thinking well that helps a little to the loss , the buy back sucks !!
No brainer hu ,hsbc back to quarterly and a special etc etc ,lloyds share holders can go fry ,buy backs are alledged payback to sh but i dont see any coming my way ,smoke and mirrors ,why do we need to lower the amount of shares ? only to please the odd ones ,profit is the share holders but not allowed to be paid in fear of windfall , pray tell me the difference between a lloyds share holder getting dosh to spend on the high street and a ppi claimer quantative easing
Ry yo no risten jcb ,its friday skimming time as predicted this am
Yes primetime if the ftse drops by 100 points this would drop 2/3p
Yes dt must be close to skimming time and down we go ,then a little pop back then oh goodness its friday afternoon skimming slide
Hook line and sinker ,lambs to the slaughter ,if they wave the threat of more than 2b ,the bod will take the 2b as a phew that was close ,they should be shoving any claims are far as the sun dont shine ,total far5e as was the ppi ,only allowed by gov as it quantative easing as this will be, 2b from the banks they can afford it sod the share holders ,and the bod of lloyds will just bend over and take it.
No 2 ,i am just going to say be careful ,the track record of this is not good at looking after sh only bonus for the boys,life style comp ,i need 90p plus to break even should give you some idea
And dont forget the almighty lti told us lloyds dont get the money from share sales to use to lend out only the money from depositors.
we havent lost value we are just stupid not to have bought at the same time as him , i was dragged up at secondary modern but even i know currently @ 41.80p the return is not 14 % ,the only way would be a special top up ,but of course with out the buybacks we would be waydown back to covid and banking crash sp ,because the home market dictates putin and middle east have crashed this ,but wait lloyds doesnt do international trading it lends to the uk
Why am i not surprised ,lti , you must be a vegan ,how do i know? they allways tell you about themselves, get over yourself there are alot of peeps on here not as well positioned as us,have lost capital, and the last thing they need is reminding of [if they had any money left] is how much they would get now and the last thing they need is to know how well you are doing
Dont be silly jcb you must know by now you could have bought @24p and get 13 % ,and what a bargain @ over two to the pound fill yer boots , yer right with what lti
"a vote for reform is a vote wasted & makes labour party stronger .
but the tories have failed uk plc."
the whole of westminster has failed the uk ,all parties not just tory or liebour ,libundemocrats, agree or disagree with brexit ,the democratic system has been kicked into the gutter,what do i mean its very simple ,two words northern ireland ,how can our gov including the opposition allow this garbage to carry on , the eu put article 16 into the protocol not us they did ,and we are laying down and being run over by brussels ,total total f**** as long as the wages for being an mp are being paid it does not matter how badly the uk is handled ,if any of us had acted for the last 8 years like westminster does we would be out on our backsides with no bonus pension cancelled and a cv ripped up /shredded with no hope of ever getting a job doing the same ,but oh no give them knight hoods ,big pensions ,get signed up by big comps to sit on the bod for failing the worlds gone nuts
The only way now this will move is to drop back to 16/17 the skimmers will jump on board ,price rise and before they can jump declare a divi ,cos with out one this aint gorn no where!! and certainly will not hold a rise
Perfect grayling,no sane person would vote for l or t at the mo,or an ex post office puppet cum to that , but dont stay at home use your vote ,but i question your sanity to suggest i may be thinking of a military coup just because as in 1900 some oicks decide to form a new party[labour] to challange the system,where would we be if we had allowed the liberals to have carried on ?
I am a not being negative all i am saying is if from 1900 to 1920 ish we had taken the same attitude the labour party would not have taken over in the 2 party system , so with the ill feeling about both main parties surely its time to stop wingeing and instead of not voting at all ,vote reform not labour or tory ,i cant see where it will landslide owt as most disgruntled tory voters will not vote tory or labour and a vote for reform[even if no seats win] it will shake the tree hopefully hard enough that things will have to change, remember maggie got a landslide with only 40% of the votes cast are we happy with that again?,or more so as with ukip will we stand back if reform get a megga slice of votes cast and do nowt ?, if the answer is yes than all is lost we may as well give up