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BC and Ade - you guys should hang out more.
Indeed - why not chat crap on forums instead.
(Too*)
Time - I have more friends than Ade calling me a genius. You don't know them but trust me there are hundreds of them. I come to this forum to boast about it because I need the approval of a faceless crowd from which I can inflate my ego.
Anyone that comes on here making these claims is highly unlikely to have a life. I repeat, please read a book.
Ade mate. You said don't buy in the middle of a pandemic and then say you'd buy at a price that was last seen in the middle of a pandemic. This is but one painfully witless statement you've offered in the short time I have seen you contributing on this bulletin.
Indeed - his objectivity is what is most appealing however! The KEY value in any investment discussion.
We shouldn’t drive wellington away. His comments are among a few that carry substance
This is a mostly sensible post.
Hedge funds are not able to keep share price down as you suggest. That is mostly Hollywood-inspired narrative. The idea people are paid on this bulletin to support downward movements is beyond absurd. It is usually agenda-driven or, more likely, loneliness, spite and an enjoyment of trolling. Like some of the rampers on here, these types are beyond reason and not worth your time.
You are quite correct this is market-wide, with certain equities exposed more than others, leisure in particular.
Anyone that is patient, has some spare cash and has a strong risk appetite could probably benefit by picking up Cine at its current valuation. It is very cheap and, despite the fundamental issues with the business, is more likely suppressed due to overhyped concern over Omicron and the Cineplex court case.
LPD if lending stock is manipulation, then we are all manipulators too. Just not in the same direction. If Fidelity bought a fat chunk of Cinworld stock you wouldn't call that manipulation would you? You would call that a decent investment.
Everyone should hang tight. This is media-driven hype driving selling activity. Cineworld has its challenges but it will go up in the long run.
Ade - read a book.
You’ve been caught out Welly. We know you were behind the recent share price plunge. Who’s paying you?
ST - I’m sure W99 is not running a simultaneous long/short. I’d expect as much from a student trading robinhood, not an FCA.
Kickthepuss - it would only be possible if it lead to any positive outcome for Cineworld. Otherwise it's all rubbish. Rarely do any reasonable bearish comments get 'objectively' rebuked.
As Wellington says, it's all irrelevant anyway as it will not lead to any material financial or reputational impact.
Nah mate, definitely market manipulation. The hedge fund analysts on six figures are on here earning a little extra cash by trying to wind up a small group of retail traders.
Wellington - your posts are welcome as long as they're positive lol. Let's not ruin the fun by posting anything too level headed.
You have raised the Occam's Razor point on here before but the dramatic hollywood-worthy scenario is just easier on the ears.
Not dumb at all mate - they might think Cineworld has further to fall than Cineplex has to rise. Who knows.
It is possible there could be a link.
It could also be possible it is part of a high-risk strategy to potentially profit from an adverse (Cineworld) outcome. It may be they have a legal expert that is familiar with cases similar to this and is confident of a Cineplex win and it is therefore worth a punt. I am sure the short represents small exposure but enough to generate a decent amount fo upside should it go their way.
It could also be in connection with Covid. They may be confident of an adverse outcome for Cineworld off the back of Omicron. Who knows
Bonkers - posting how much dollar you have invested is usually linked to insecurity. There's a lot of distain for BC but pity is probably more appropriate. Seeking approval by posting fictional numbers on an investment bulletin stoops to the lowest of desperation and self-confidence.
Moneypit - the fact this has to be spelled out to some is concerning. BC has always been full of it. Thank you for providing clarity to those that fall into that bucket.
A long-term holder would not mind buying at the top, recognising that over the long-term a given security will continue to rise. They aren't in it for skimming short-term profits like most on here that blindly invest and hope for the best.
For example, Apple is trading at an astonishingly high valuation at the moment. As a believer in their business, their differentiated business model and their ecosystem, I am confident investing while they're trading at record highs because, over the next five to ten years, I expect them to rise.
Agreed though - it seems odd to open a short at this point.
What an empty statement. You got a rationale? Assumptions? Why is it likely? Deramping (and ramping) should be accompanied by relevant, verifiable information.
Something like that Bonkers.
Buy orders
10.50
10.45
10.40
10.35
Sell orders
10.70
10.65
10.60
10.55
10.50
4 buy orders. 5 sell orders. Only one will match (10.50).