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Definitely not - you must be mad.
Not for a virus which 99.8% survive. Unproven rushed-out vaccine, inadequate trials, new gene-based medicines, Pharma companies have had liabilities removed, history of Sars vaccines causing narcolepsy in children - many hidden dangers. Nor will 40% of UK doctors be taking it: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941492
I take it you won't be having the vaccine when available. Are you a flat earther?
I take it you won't be having the vaccine when available. Are you a flat earther.
Chuck - and try this on masks: https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/vc-moreharmthangood.pdf
Chuck - these people don't work in icu: https://gbdeclaration.org/
Nor does Nobel Prize winner Michael Levitt. Nor Dr Mike Yeadon, head scientist for research into respiratory diseases at Pfizer. Check them out - all far more qualified than SAGE advisers.
As you say, a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.
Perhaps you should both work in icu with out a mask. A little knowledge is very dangerous.
Great post 3CB I don't normally bother to post but your perceptive analysis has spurred me on. The fact that, as you point out, Starmer was involved in the WMD dossier so early on before he was a memer of the shadow cabinet or even an MP (2015?) maye even before he declared himself a memer of the Labour party shows just how deep the conspiracy goes and how well you understand these things. The only thing missing in your analysis surprises me a bit, and that is what we all know. None of this is ever reported in the officially controllled press/media and that is how we can be certain that it is true.
Good luck, 3CB.
Not for me - I don't really understand it enough, and mining generally - but hope it comes good for you. Fingers crossed.
My money's on GLR
Yep, lots of research time spent on Covid. MA in Development Studies so always been a bit political. VOG only a pastime compared to what time I spend on Covid/Brexit. Have 3,000 leaflets to deliver in the next few weeks; so could be a bit quiet from me on here.
And then there's the animals I work with. My hopes are to build enough capital to buy a farm; then turn it into a sanctuary or Nature Reserve. So fingers crossed VOG bags 10 times, then put it in the next one to ten-bag.
Dreams! - they'll probably be the ruin of me.
Blimey sparrow. You're more clued up on covid than you are on vog
Fully agree, 3CB. Good post.
Lockdowns are massive killers. Millions of people in the Third World will die as a result of these ludicrous policies. Many more will die in the UK because of lockdown than because of Covid because the NHS is being run as a Covid-only service. The governments own estimate back in April was that 200,000 could die in the UK because of lockdown (not because of the virus) - and they still went ahead with it. Too, Covid deaths have been vastly exaggerated. Only about 1700 people in the UK have died of Covid without an underlying health condition. In the US, the CDC's own analysis was that only 6% of deaths were 'of' Covid, whereas 94% were 'with' Covid, ie with co-morbidities. This summer, Flu deaths were 10 times higher than Covid (which had fallen to less than 10 a day). Many pointed out that Flu deaths were running at normal rates - and thus Lockdown measures did not work as flu and Covid are similar respiratory illnesses. The government feared this argument so, once again, falsified the figures. You cannot easily falsify total respiratory deaths (which are normal for this time of year), so they mis-ascribed almost all flu deaths as Covid deaths. Suddenly for the first time in history, Flu had disappeared as a cause of death.
WAKE UP mrc - do your research on a broad and independent basis. Try listening to some of the videos of Lord Sumption (one of the country's top judges). The government is lying to you. This has been a coup; and we now live in a police state.
mrc. If you follow all types of news media and not just the BBC you will be aware of a huge and growing body of scientists, politicians and general public, who accept that this disease can kill and cause serious illness, albeit that the vast majority of affected are 70+.
But when you compare the numbers to 5 year excess deaths, they are not that far above normal. And contrary to the propaganda used to justify the current lockdown, most hospitals are nowhere near covid crisis point. The information used was based on 30 or so of the country's most affected hospitals out of over 400, and wittey and co used this to justify figures of thousands of deaths per day and bounce a hapless Bojo into submission. It was almost as bad as Blair and Starmer's weapons of mass destruction dodgy dossier.
The fact is if a fraction of the money spent on covid had been directed at the biggest killers, heart and cancer, they would have probably reduced excess deaths below normal levels including covid. .
Since you ask, I am 65 and probably a little overweight so maybe at risk but I take reasonable care through my own decisions and resent being forced by the state to follow some of their ludicrous controls, such as ok to sweat and breathe heavily in a small gym but not sing hymns in a cavern sized church.
My fear is not for me , nor the politicians and boffins and beaurocrats on guaranteed jobs and salaries. My fear is for the kids and grandkids who will pay for this year for the next 20 or 30 years.
Clearly you are alright jacks.
Try listening to the medical professionals on the front line dealing with this. Or people who have had this. It's real and it's serious. The protestors are idiotic selfish conspiracy theorist.
The government has been crap but they are not making this up to deprive you of your liberty. They are just Ill equipped and a little incompetent.
And it's not deaths that are the problem, it is the beds that the sick take up that can break the NHS. And the absences of NHS staff.
Have to say that if the recent news was as game changing as one or two would have us believe, an almost 50% retrace since then seems a little harsh. Still holding though on hopes of some bigger news. Glass half full and all that
Agreed, 3CB. Police actions yesterday were disgraceful. Too, the censorship of medical opinion by Facebook, Google (youtube) and twitter. Been a police state since March.
Was, and am, a strong and active campaigner for Brexit. I expect Johnson will betray us before the year is out.
Good to agree on some things.
(Note - back to VOG - my tendency to take contrary views perhaps led me to take a second look and a different view on this 'no-hoper' VOG. It is often about being open-minded, forming your own opinions and not being overly influenced by the majority's narrative, realising there's an opportunity being overlooked by others, and then doing a lot of wide-ranging research. Of course, time will tell on this one. Not counting my chickens yet.).
The problem is sparrow, that you are denounced as a heretic for standing up for people's right to do what they think is right. It's like brexit all over again
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Why are we in lockdown when the Government’s own Operation Cygnus pandemic plan stated that lockdown could only delay deaths by a few weeks at most?
What evidence is there that lockdown has prevented more deaths than it has caused?
Dr Craig adds:
SAGE believes over 90% of the UK population are still susceptible to COVID-19 (Sage Minutes: September 21st). There is now a large body of evidence (eg BMJ: September 17th) that 30-50% of the population had prior immunity to the SARS-CoV-2 virus because of its similarities to some types of common cold.
Regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor Dr Claire Craig FRCPath, along with Dr Jonathan Engler, has kindly written this list of killer questions for readers to send to their MPs:
Why are SARS-CoV-2 antibody levels flat or dropping across all age groups since May if the pandemic is still going?
What percentage of the population is assumed to have had prior immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in the SAGE forecasting models?
Why do 50% of household members not catch SARS-CoV-2 from infected persons with whom they live?
Why have Japan and South Korea not had any serious outbreak if the human species has no prior immunity to SARS-CoV-2?
What percentage of the population of the UK is assumed to be immune to COVID-19 (including prior immunity) as of this date?
What percentage of those diagnosed with COVID-19 since July have developed antibodies to COVID-19, confirming the diagnosis?
If 90%+ (SAGE Minutes: 21/09/20) of the population is still susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, why did the virus case numbers and deaths not double every 3-4 days throughout June, July and August, and indeed throughout the Autumn?
Why have positive test results rocketed while numbers of symptomatic patients in the community and NHS triage data show they have flatlined since mid-September?
Why are acute respiratory admissions through Accident & Emergency significantly below the normal for the time of year if the pandemic is still raging?
Why are total hospital admissions, ITU occupancy and hospital oxygen consumption at or below normal levels for the time of year?
What percentage of deaths labelled as being due to COVID-19 have had the diagnosis confirmed at post-mortem since July?
Why are the regions of the country that have had excess deaths not the same regions that have supposed COVID-19 deaths, unlike in spring?
Why has Liverpool testing by the Army failed to find COVID-19 in the community when they are supposedly at the centre of the alleged “second wave”?
How is a 0.22% rate of diagnosed infection in the public in Liverpool to be reconciled with the ONS prediction of 2.3% infection rates in Liverpool on 11th November based on PCR testing?
Why are much quicker lateral flow tests not being prioritised for hospital admissions to prevent the standard 24-48 hour delay with PCR results and ensure that those who are positive can be isolated to prevent hospital spread?
Why aren’t all staff being tested by the lateral flow test to prevent the staffing crisis being caused by false positive PCR results?
Do positive PCR tests for asymptomatic and symptomatic NHS staff, or anyone else, which result in them being required to self-isolate have confirmatory re-tests performed?
Why is the country in lockdown when there are no excess hospital admissions, no excess intensive care bed use and no excess death rates (by date of occurrence) in the midst of an allegedly out of control, raging pandemic?
Nice to be of the same opinion on this, 3CB. Have much empathy for the protesters in London - and the sooner we get back to normal and forget all this nonsense the better.
My opinion comes from having done much research, and from a wide variety of sources far removed from the daily propaganda pushed out by the mainstream media.
mrc - young people do not need to get vaccinated. Such vaccinations can damage their immune system besides having many other serious side effects. And it is very rare for young people to suffer severely from Covid-19, unlike flu. What young people need to do is go out and mix, and catch Covid, so as to build herd immunity in the population, thus making it difficult for the virus to jump host to host and attack the vulnerable/elderly. This is the basis of the Great Barrington Declaration 'focused protection' and the Swedish infection control model (with deaths 10 times less than the UK once adjusted for population).
Try this: https://gbdeclaration.org/
Havealot - young people need to get vaccinated to provide protection to others in society. It's not as simple as vaccinating the old and vulnerable. For a start vaccines are not effective for people with compromised immune systems.
Our grandfather's didn't fight 2 world wars for us to use that freedom to get pints in at the weekend and jeopardize the health of the vulnerable in society.
Lockdown is a crude tool but for whatever reason the government have not put in an effective test track and trace system so it is the only option.
Climate change is real, and in any case a transition to more efficient and sustainable renewable energy production is a good thing. It is progress.
Just do not agree with you at all. Gas boilers are being phased out, new internal combustion engines powered cars are being banned from 2030. Two examples of what I mean about wasting money on climate issues based on very dubious science. As for risks of vacination it depends on your age group young people not at risk of complications from Covoid need not bother to vacinate if they do not wish, whereas high risk older people of which I am one, do not need to worry about long term risk. Whereas the short term risk is more relevant, horses for courses. As for the PCR test its limitations are well know. However I can well understand the point of view of those persons whose jobs are on the line as a result of lockdown.
Just do not agree with you at all. Gas boilers are being phased out, new internal combustion engines powered cars are being banned from 2030. Two examples of what I mean about wasting money on climate issues based on very dubious science. As for risks of vacination it depends on your age group young people not at risk of complications from Covoid need not bother to vacinate if they do not wish, whereas high risk older people of which I am one, do not need to worry about long term risk. Whereas the short term risk is more relevant, horses for courses. As for the PCR test its limitations are well know. However I can well understand the point of view of those persons whose jobs are on the line as a result of lockdown.
Sparrow, do I almost find myself agreeing with you?
Havealot, you may not have noticed but governments stopped spending on saving the planet 9 months ago when they started spending on destroying our freedoms and way of life. Lol