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Last post: ShafTedAgin, 20 Nov 2020 12:11
Was that you then? Or do you think DS is reducing. Surely a TR1 should follow.
2 mill there...that's got the volumes up.
Started: sain@vision, 22 Jan 2019 11:06
Last post: sain@vision, 22 Jan 2019 11:06
Well now bought in a few to enjoy the bunfight with Souky.Desperate measures to recoup something from his poor investment here
Maybe just a Pyrrhic victory though for shareholders!
Started: sain@vision, 13 Jun 2018 11:13
Last post: sain@vision, 13 Jun 2018 11:13
Well little to aim for at this level. Motley collection in the next auctions with vacancies and short leases Will be interesting to see how this fares .Time will arrive shortly where the number of properties under management won't justify staying in business Maybe Soukop might come in and wrap the remainder up to try and get some return on their shareholding where their investment here looks very limp Looks like Grahame Whateley seems to have walked away with best deal a few years back
No news on October auctions is surprising given that outcome of previous auction round in July was communicated to investors in that month.
No further auctions til autumn as the drip feed continues Wish Thalassa would do everybody a favour and hoover up the rest at 35p Grahame Whateley was always going to be the one to leave with the biggest prize who would fight you over the last penny Maybe another £20m worth of kit to go thru auctions before they test the market in another portfolio sale Difficult to imagine that will be possible unless a significant 20% discount is offered Meanwhile the leases to good covenants are getting shorter
From Thalassa's Final Results, out today : " The 23.3% equity interest in LSR is a cash management position, nothing more nothing less. The Board of THAL has been and remains openly critical of the LSR board, specifically in regard of their unwillingness to bring costs in line with a diminishing level of assets. The LSR Board's stated goal is to maximise shareholder value; this clearly cannot be achieved if costs are not curtailed as assets are sold. To that end, your Board will continue to pursue a policy of urging the LSR board to reduce costs in line with reduced assets and revenues. " http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5530772
Started: sain@vision, 30 Mar 2017 18:01
Last post: sain@vision, 30 Mar 2017 18:01
Furthjer success today at Actius with some very tasty prices A couple of Befreds in indifferent locations achieved some very tasty yied sure to ahve beaten book No wonder the SP flickered up today Keep them coming
Started: sain@vision, 29 Mar 2017 13:04
Last post: sain@vision, 29 Mar 2017 13:04
At last progress now Allsopps are on the case for the auctions achieving some very good prices yesterday sure to be in excess of book values Difficult to work out why they havent been used before especially as they have already undertaken all the legwork , inspected them for valuations and private treaty sales Internos are an unnecessary expense Results were encouraging as LSR are filled with similr stock .Particuarly pleasing were the prices achieved for the shops let to Corals Gravesend producing a 5.8% % yield on a 8 year lease where prices vary wildly where the investor has one eye on the potential void Bring them on get them out
Started: sain@vision, 28 Feb 2017 10:30
Last post: sain@vision, 28 Feb 2017 10:30
The properties are now as guided finding their way into the auction catalogues of Actius and for the less desirable ones at the regional auction house of Pugh There were some real horrors emerging from the portfolio there recently. Latest results are below recent book valuation by Allsopps which is a little concerning bearing in mind they are the top dog auctioneers Looking at the majority of the lots being sold by LSR you can see why they werent keen to have them polluting their catalogues However there re were a number which would have sat quite happily amongst others in their catalogue and more than likely stimulated higher offers Why werent they listed especailly as they had already undertaken the groundwork on the properties in the valuation? It does beg the question since they valued them why couldnt they sell them Glancing through the various lots on offer by LSR there were many leases with tenants holding over,some poor descriptions and a sneaking suspicion that they have not been actively managed A stinging indictment on the e status quo The sooner we ship the rest out the better Grahame Whateley has never been last in the queue when the prizes are being given out and it seems his decision to bail out to Thalssa at a price unlikely to be seen again was a smart move .Never mind
Started: SGD27, 29 Nov 2016 11:49
Last post: SGD27, 1 Dec 2016 08:21
Started: sain@vision, 10 Nov 2016 15:20
Last post: sain@vision, 10 Nov 2016 15:20
Silly overhead,management agreements for now a relatively small portfolio which could easily be manged by on eof th etop west end firms Previous portfolio sales for a smidge over book value which was more than swallowed up by manag ement fees SFA this year whist the company Valuers allsop who were paid sale fees every month sell hundreds of shops similar to LSR.s portfolio in their monthly auctions The whole lot could be pushedthru the next 3 auctions and the rump portfolioed off and hey presto the shareholders might see something
Started: SGD27, 10 Nov 2016 14:44
Last post: SGD27, 10 Nov 2016 14:44
Meeting Requisition RNS : http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5447096 And here's the view from Thalassa's side : http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5447067 Should be 'interesting'. Anyone going?!
Started: sain@vision, 27 Oct 2016 11:27
Last post: sain@vision, 27 Oct 2016 11:27
Yes indeed . No doubt its been difficult to shift a portfolio with all the difficult external conditions this year but time to unravel this beast I dont mind either way Soukop takes it out or the BODS ramp up the selling process Whats the point of "managing " a whole ragtag of tertiary shops under £250k on the hope that someone might pick up the rump just because there are some small individual jewels in the crown acting as a sweetener
Started: Mrbadexample, 8 Oct 2016 16:14
Last post: SGD27, 27 Oct 2016 08:37
The 'interesting ride' begins! RNS : http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5438499
Buckle up for an interesting ride here with Soukup on board in chunky style Margin of safety provided by discount to nav one would hope but let's see what can be worked out News of that engagement with the Board eagerly awaited
Started: sain@vision, 13 Sep 2016 10:31
Last post: sain@vision, 13 Sep 2016 10:31
Started: sain@vision, 13 Sep 2016 10:29
Last post: sain@vision, 13 Sep 2016 10:29
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/THAL/12963270.html Duncan Soukop obviusly a bit of a wag .He ought to team up with Tim Martin for a double act .Looks as if they are seeking a move Fasten your seat belts The remainder of the portfolio has done the rounds of the market and clearly there has yet to be a sufficently attractive offer to take it
Started: SGD27, 12 Sep 2016 08:47
Last post: SGD27, 12 Sep 2016 08:55
Sorry, wrong link. http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5412740
http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5412763 6.225m @ ~33p, so presumably includes the 6m that showed up on Friday. Now holding 23%. "Following this further share purchase and the resultant wholesale changes to the shareholder register of LSR, the Board of Thalassa intends to engage with the Chairman of LSR as soon as practicable, with a view to reviewing and changing LSR's investment policy approved in July 2013." Reversing the sell-off??
Started: sain@vision, 9 Sep 2016 18:02
Last post: sain@vision, 9 Sep 2016 18:02
Looking at the number of shares purchased, it looks as if Whateley has sold. Interesting to see who picked up the 6m.
Look like this is on its way ,Question is will Grahame Whateley play a few games .He is someone who has always fought over the last penny
Started: jollyspeculator, 9 Sep 2016 13:24
Last post: jollyspeculator, 9 Sep 2016 13:24
but I refrain from further description...too x rated lol
Started: jollyspeculator, 9 Sep 2016 12:44
Last post: APAcquisitions, 9 Sep 2016 12:58
Is that the same Thalassa oil services let's mess it all up company?
premium thal paid (to sp at time and esp 2-3 month av)..oh dear, DS...y??????????????//
Obvious reason for the SP rise today: http://investing.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article/id/5412074 So Thalassa bought ~10.4m @ ~34.5p, but who did they get them from? No doubt imminent holdings RNSs will reveal all.
Started: sain@vision, 25 Aug 2016 17:53
Last post: sain@vision, 25 Aug 2016 17:53
Thanks for that hadnt realised Simon Thompson tippedthese as well as TEF I think I better send him abox of chocolates Just surprised that Local Shop have sold relatively little recently when the stock they hold is ideal Allsops fodder Grahame Whateley who loves a deal will feature highly in any move here Simon Thompson seems to have stepped into Jim Slater,s shoes in that everytime he tips a share it has a spike
Started: sain@vision, 25 Aug 2016 02:54
Last post: Josh95, 25 Aug 2016 11:53
For good measure, LSR’s share price appears to have successfully retested the July price lows around 24p, suggesting that the sell-off from the March highs around 31p is complete and a recovery could be on the cards. I am willing to bet on that possibility and with the shares trading on a bid-offer spread of 26p to 26.5p, I rate them a value buy and have an end 2017 target price of 36p. Buy.
osts of investment manager When LSR adopted the new investment mandate three years ago, the board appointed INTERNOS Global Investors to manage the disposal programme and Steve Faber, an employee of INTERNOS, was appointed as designated investment manager and a main board director too. Mr Faber has extensive experience of UK property including at Tesco Stores, Land Securities Trillium and at RREEF where he was head of UK Asset Management and responsible for £2bn of property. Under the management agreement, LSR agreed to grant INTERNOS the following fees: an annual asset management fee of 0.70 per cent of the company’s gross asset value; an annual performance fee comprising 20 per cent of recurring operating profits each financial year above an annually agreed hurdle, rebased quarterly downwards on a pro rata basis to reflect sales; a sales fee payable on the disposal of assets, subject to a ratcheted scale being nil for less than £50m, 0.5 per cent for £50-150m and one per cent for £150m or greater of aggregate sales; and a terminal fee, calculated as 5.7 per cent of any cash returned to the company's shareholders above the "Terminal Fee Hurdle". The Terminal Fee Hurdle is calculated at the first 36.1p per share in cash returned to shareholders from the start of the scheme and this sum rises by 8 per cent annually after the first year. The fee structure was designed to reduce the basic administration cost of the company by £600,000 per annum, while at the same time incentivising INTERNOS to sell assets whilst maximising returns to shareholders. INTERNOS earned around £500,000 in fees in the six months to end March 2016, which seems a fair arrangement to me, but it’s worth flagging up the disposal costs nonetheless. Valuation LSR is a small cap property company so one would expect some liquidity discount to be applied to the valuation, but a 40 per cent share price discount to end March 2016 net asset value seems excessive considering its investment advisers are still working towards a realisation of the portfolio by the end of next year with a view to returning cash to shareholders as soon as possible thereafter. Even taking a bear case scenario whereby 10 per cent of the current portfolio value is accounted for in costs and discounts to sell the properties, and that really would be a bearish outcome, I still arrive at a realistic liquidation value of £30m, or 36p a share, after deducting the HSBC borrowings and after factoring in retained net profits earned by LSR between March 2016 and end 2017. To put my liquidation value into some perspective, it’s a hefty 35 per cent above the current share price. And given this could be earned in the next 18 months, it’s a favourable return too. For good measure, LSR’s share price appears to have successfully retested the July price lows around 24p, suggesting that the sell-off from the March highs around 31p is
It’s worth pointing out too that the board has not set a prescriptive timetable for the sale of the properties, but has instructed and incentivised its managers to dispose of properties as expeditiously as is consistent with the protection of value in order to maximise the monies paid to the shareholders. They are also instructed to ensure an orderly phasing of property sales to protect value and not over-supply this specialist property market at any one time. A corporate transaction, such as a sale of the company, will be considered, where this offers the opportunity to accelerate the realisation of optimal value for shareholders. Still, there is no guarantee that the company will be able to achieve the full £76.7m market value of the portfolio when the remaining properties are sold, nor is there a guarantee that the end 2017 deadline will be hit. High property yields warranted Another reason for the high property yields on offer is because investment returns from retail property have lagged the other main property investment sectors, with rental and yield performance weaker than office and industrial markets. Investors are still exercising a degree of caution towards a sector which has experienced a structural adjustment arising from the impact of online shopping, which has led to a rebasing of rents to more affordable levels. Well publicised concerns regarding excess space capacity amongst supermarket operators may have tainted investor attitudes too. That’s not to say the company hasn’t been successful in its lettings. By adopting a flexible approach to lease renewals and a sensible active asset management approach, LSR has managed to reduce voids in the portfolio from 13.18 per cent to 10.78 per cent in the 12 months to end March 2016. LSR’s advisors have also adopted a flexible approach when signing new leases by offering stepped rent increases whereby the initial rent is below the market rent for the first few years, but above it for the remainder of the lease term. This secures a tenant, brings in income and reduces voids on the portfolio. Tenant default is another issue worth considering for any property company. In the case of LSR, it holds deposits equating to 24.2 per cent of its quarterly rent roll, and further deposits, typically one month’s rent, are held by its managing agent and regulated tenant deposits schemes in respect of residential tenancies. This provides some protection in the event of a tenant defaulting on its rent, but it still has an impact on rental income, levels of voids and the ability of LSR to sell a property. Still, this doesn’t appear to be a problem as LSR’s bad debt charge was around £250,000 in its last financial year.
I would also flag up that having cancelled interest rate hedging facilities in January this year, and previously renegotiated the terms of the HSBC facility, bank debt is floating at a margin of 2 per cent above three-month LIBOR, implying a current interest rate of 2.39 per cent and an annual service cost of £1.3m on the credit facility. This means that once you factor in annual property expenses of around £2m, administrative expenses of £1.7m, interest costs of £1.3m, then LSR’s £7.1m of rental income produces net profits of £2.1m. Based on 82.5m shares in issue after deducting 9.16m shares held in treasury, this translates into recurring EPS of 2.6p and means the shares are being rated on 10 times earnings. Or put it another way, the net profits accrued from the portfolio between now and the targeted wind up date of end 2017 should be accretive to net asset value per share. That’s worth considering because LSR’s net asset value was £35.3m at the end of March 2016, or 43p a share, so with a market cap of only £21.8m its shares are being priced almost 40 per cent below book value. That’s a huge discount given the board are actively divesting the portfolio, and the company’s net asset value actually increased by £500,000 in the latest six month trading period. Assessing risks in divestment process Of course, one of the reasons why LSR’s shares are trading so far below book value is due to the risk that its properties fail to achieve their valuations on disposal. In the six months to end March 2016, the portfolio fell by 0.14 per cent on a like-for-like basis due to a 10 basis point widening of the equivalent yield used by Allsop LLP. This reflected a more cautious investment backdrop and the dampening effect on valuations in the run-up to the EU Referendum, a factor which may impact valuations at the end September 2016 review. And this is feeding into sale prices as the 18 freehold properties sold in that six-month period generated aggregate proceeds of £4.12m, or 1.72 per cent below their preceding valuation. That said, this is hardly a major problem given there is a £13.5m difference between the company’s market value and its net asset value, offering a hefty safety margin on the final sale prices to be achieved on the remaining £76.7m of properties yet to be sold.
It was tipped yesterday by Simon Thompson in IC- hence the re-rate: I have identified another sector play well worth considering, Local Shopping REIT (LSR:26.5p), a small cap retail sector focused property investment company with a market capitalisation of just £21.8m and one that’s in the process of selling down its portfolio with a view to returning the cash proceeds to shareholders. The change in investment policy was approved by shareholders in July 2013 and the completion date for the disposal programme is end 2017. The board have been successful to date, having sold off in excess of £94m worth of assets in the past three years. The remaining portfolio now comprises 336 individual retail properties which have over 900 units and generate an annual rent of £7.1m net of head leases, offer a market rent of £7.67m, and were valued at £76.7m at the end of March 2016. Chartered surveyors Allsops LLP used an equivalent yield of 9.5 per cent to value these assets which seems reasonable to me given that 70 per cent of LSR’s properties are let to individuals or local companies, and over 60 per cent of the leases are less than six years to expiry, so investors will demand a high yield. The units are generally located in local shopping parades and neighbourhood venues for top-up convenience shopping with around 59 per cent of the portfolio classified as A1 shops, 9 per cent cafes, and 6 per cent takeaways. Almost 15 per cent of the portfolio is residential and encompasses 219 units worth £11.39m, or £52,000 each. In terms of the portfolio valuation, two thirds of the properties were valued at less than £200,000 and accounted for £21.6m of the total portfolio; 81 units were worth between £200,000 and £500,000 to account for £24.5m of the portfolio; a further 21 units were valued at between £500,000 to £1m and had a combined valuation of £15m; and the remaining 8 units had a valuation of £15.6m. Orderly wind down of portfolio The key here is that the company has gross borrowings of £53.4m with HSBC secured against the £76.7m portfolio to give a loan-to-value ratio of 72.4 per cent, well within the 82.5 per cent covenant. In addition, LSR holds £12.3m of cash on its balance sheet which, if applied to the HSBC credit line, reduces debt to £41.2m and lowers the loan-to-value ratio to 53.7 per cent. In other words, there is no financial distress here at all and, with 20 months remaining until the HSBC facility expires in April 2018, LSR’s board are not under pressure to make fire sales to meet the end 2017 target of winding down the portfolio.
Started: sain@vision, 10 Aug 2016 08:59
Last post: sain@vision, 10 Aug 2016 08:59
Still dont understand why they havent managed to achieve more disposals especially at the bottom end to owner occupiers They reported a miserly £4m of sales in the 6 months to March seems like directors are hell bent on keeping themsleves in a job .
Started: sain@vision, 17 Dec 2015 12:10
Last post: sain@vision, 17 Dec 2015 12:10
They have been very slow shifting this portfolio .The investment market is reasonably buoyant at the moment and I dont understand where 60% of the portfolio are shops valued at less than £1m these havent wound their way into auction catalogues
Started: sain@vision, 10 Dec 2015 20:08
Last post: sain@vision, 10 Dec 2015 20:08
Looks like they arent getting any closer to a corporate sale about time they fed some of these lots into Allsops auction. and wrap this up Equity being eaten up by hefty management fees Their December auction were succeesfully disposing of average lot sizes of 580k similar stock to Local Shop for 6-9% yields which will be sufficent to give shareholders a premium over current SP.lets get moving