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Good evening Mogie, good to hear from you. Yes, I remember you going to the NT seminar. Interesting. I had wondered how much you would have learnt which hadn't been covered by his book; but I seem to remember reading that he recommends reading his book first, so I guess from that that it isn't just a verbal repeat. Lot of money to pay out had it been!. I think we can tie ourselves down to or into too strict a set of rules if we are not careful. Now, I don't think having a set of rules is a bad thing, that makes us think more carefully about what we are investing in and helps us to be more careful and diligent. The worst thing we can do is just like the sound of something and investing on not much more than a whim or a tip/suggestion from others without doing the necessary research. A 5 year positive earnings growth can be hard to find and will rule out young progressive companies who may just have had one bad year. That in itself may have nothing or little to do with themselves since it may have had more to do with the macro economic climate generally, ie recession etc. Cash flow is important as you say. Personally, I haven't really thought about measurements against the sectors was that covered by NT?. What I do like to read in the RNS, the trading updates is nothing negative from the Chairman; if so then I will steer clear. The fact that the dividend has been increased each of the last 8 years speaks volumes as to the confidence the company has going forward. One of the reasons why I have missed CLL from my research criteria previously is because I was relying heavily upon the PEG factor and it hadn't been indicated on the digitallook.com site which I use as first port of call. So, companies can get missed. You win some, you lose some. Thanks for your list of companies given below to take a closer look at. I didn't realise Stockopedia did a Zulu Screener. I've taken a brief look. I notice GBO is on the list. Hmm. Fundamentals are excellent but you will no doubt know what is going on there with their share price and sentiment. Seeing as this is the CLL board, I won't go into that, this isn't the place. Having said that........COMS.........., I don't tend to post on there; it will just get lost in all the posts from the posters who seem to have nothing more to do all day. Thanks for the download again Mogie. I have taken another look at it. It is a good piece of work and valuable reading. I'm not sure it would be appreciated on some other boards but that is their problem. If we can help each other then I am all for it; can't do with personal battles and point scoring. Need to be aware of possible clouds on the horizon. Oh, and I promise I'll keep quiet about this one. I haven't come on here to take over and start shouting, lol, not my way. Good luck all and regrds CM