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dan there is a pretty reliable and up and down pattern with Vod, similar to others I own like KLR.
I must confess to being impatient and not capitalising enough on that. Also when the market is moving up there is a natural urge to add to positions. That always seems to cause a reversal like the market is waiting for me to do that.
So my new resolution is always to wait. As sure as anything Vod will be back to 110 ish. As sure as anything it'll then be talked up again.
Robleo hope you don't mind me adding to your question.....my best holding has been LGEN....good solid divi even paid fully during the pandemic...I managed to get Aviva at 245 topped up just under 400 this also has been a good investment so far
Shell. All others are only good for trading. But just when you think you're ahead ....
Robina, you have a large variety of shares, which would you say has been the best performer? By that i mean paying a good dividend and increase in capital inline with inflation
Hello soton, It's not being negative to face the facts, there are many other positive's to take into account. I think fleccy may be the best man for that?
Hello Robina. You say with the right timing it would seem better to buy low, & sell high? Sorry but surely that is just stating the blindingly obvious isn't it? The question is how to buy low & sell high? If I new that I would be very rich. What was it Basil Fawlty said? Something like, You get 10 out of 10 for stating the bleeding obvious? Only joking of course. No disrespect meant, because this is the very nice person chat thread, for one day only?! God save the Queen. As Johnie rotten would say.
Oh dear think we're all going a bit negative.....that's not a lot of divi cover they've cut it once so the possibility of another cut remains...Hope i sound to much like our dear old friend Mikey..... good man in my opinion
I don't want to appear negative (because if I do I will be obliged to have a go at myself!?) But the dividend cover is about 0.8. not about 1.25 as has been suggested by some, 1.25 is the reverse divi cover, so the opposite.
There seems to be around a year spacing between it touching the 140 mark.
Looking back I can't really see what drove it up.
Also it seems to drop back by at least the div amount. With the right timing it would seem better to buy low and sell high, waiting the requisite number of months for bad days in which to buy.
So despite the reliability, the div really seems worthless unless you are a long term passive investor.
How wrong am I?
Dan, you haven't got away with anything lol, but I'd love to know what that perfect alternative is ?, The growth stocks seem to have gone into reverse gear at the moment
I agree t.c. but the problem at the moment is the divi yield is less than inflation, so some growth needed as well? Not to mention the possibility of a divi cut, but as I said, don't mention that?! I did, but I think I got away with it?! Basil!!
Good afternoon all. Surely long term growth, although it would be nice, is not really why we hold these shares? I see them purely as an instrument to extract reasonably secure dividend returns from my capital. Along with the various other perennial ftse income paying companies.
I too hope he's wrong on the long term growth front...but do see where is coming from as have said before when this reaches 140 going to sell half of my holding here the dividend is good but can't justify the slow movement in the share price
Thank's for your post, I have got a bit carried away lately, so time for me to calm down. I hope you are wrong about the long term sp though & I will be holding on for a while yet.
What's the alternative Gary, do you have somewhere else in mind ?, I'm still hoping my Lloyds shares will reward me, maybe after the buybacks have finished perhaps, just hoping the wait will be worth it, maybe next year perhaps
"Thanks to Gary perhaps" Daniel. All meant in the best possible taste as Kenny E used to proclaim & never personal.
Back to the SP here I've held these for over 10 years, sold 50% of my holding a few months back @ £1.39 & now really only hold the remaining 8,000 for the dividends. I'm cheesed off with the lack of growth in this company & think if I hold for another 10 years we'll still be where we are today. I think that sadly VOD has beaten me & I may well sell up entirely soon for a small profit as my average is about £1.19. Me selling up will be good for everyone else as it's bound to increase considerably afterwards, sods law.
GL All & a Happy & safe Jubilee from here on the beautiful Quantocks.
No problem Dan, that's all done and dusted i think, we all gave our opinions on that one, and we are never all going to agree on everything, we just have to accept that
anyway an interesting cple of days ahead now, hope all goes well
best of luck
Hi rob. I sent my post before I read yours, I hope you are wrong, but I am just holding on. I am a bit slow with my typing, trying not to make any typos.
Robleo. It is clear from many of your comments that are a great guy, & keep it it coming, but I feel on a share forum you should feel free to criticise others, as I have, others have & cheapshareboy has, (I hope he doesn't mind me saying that) . You are all free to criticise me because perhaps I can learn from it? & take it. Thank's to Gary perhaps? But If you do, I will not de grade myself by calling you a bully. I think that Nick Read, his b.o.d. & those horrible yanks deserve respect as well as you & me ,because they are humans as well. I am entitled to that opinion, so please don't bully me to think otherwise? Good on you rob, & may your god go with you. As Dave Allen used to say!----(better not do any of his dark jokes on here though I guess?) ------I don't think I will be selling vod though as my target is 1.33 before ex divi. God save the Queen, Happy jubilee to all.
we may even see a drop tomorrow, from people taking profits before exdiv, Dan something we discussed the other day, let's see what happens there ?
Divi is holding Tuesday so Wednesday is the horrible fall, shame the markets were not closed for that
It will be the oddest of weeks. US closed today, lse closed Thursday Friday, div on Wednesday. This weeks winner will need a bonus prize.
132.3 pls
Good evening all, well it looks like all the predictions are in, thank you all for that, Drum roll
The pressure is on now, good luck all and hope we have a good week
Prediction Guesses for 01/06/22
robleo 1.24
daniel 1.28
FredRubble 133.33
mole_man99 1.25
sotonspike 126.3
cheapsharesboy 128.5
Scratch49 1.26
WM2020 126.5
NewSid 125.7
CSDI 125.1
126.5 for me.
GLA