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It will be going private.
Broadly the infrastructure is in place to allow 14£ revenue. Circa £200m capex is needed for next couple of years vs £530m cash in bank so covered
MM has put on record how he hates the public market - so we know emotionally the only guy who can stop a delist has no reason to want to
Most big players will role their share from public to private and if bud is circa £2.5 vs current SP their NAV on the books materially increases
I don’t see any reasons it stays public - sadly no one in the stock markets cares/ considers PI and for most, anything up to 2.5£ per share would unlock a healthy profit.
Also if a deal isn’t struck, shorts will simply reload and bring SP back down(on profit the deflated position increased by +200%/ SP is 20% than rejected offer etc)
Kando
Assume he takes Private
Could MM double the Rev the next 36 months ?
Then separately sell Nutrition and Beauty when the markets improve ?
Could he enjoy the muted 3X to 5X in a better market
He then spins out Ingenuity again when markets higher and Lists in USA - 3 years time
Will the market ever give him a 3X to 5X valuation? But a trade buyer might ?
Depending on his carry he could double what he could make within a quoted vehicle, he can then start again giving staff new shares in the new vehicles
So many merits for MM to take private
Ironically Iain Mc can see same,hence his bid, assuming it’s not part of a non disclosed concert party
Possibly Oke, except that it would be back private, and still several years away from positive cash generation. He would have equity, but not in the form he could generate any personal wealth from. So it would be a net negative for him. Eventually he (and his PE partners) would simply have to relist it to realize their holdings, and then the same rules apply. And before someone says it, I don't think it would necessarily be any different if it were listed on the NYSE. Tech and growth stocks can get battered there just as well as they can get battered here. 90% down is 90% down wherever you list. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Kando - good debate
Suggest we have to look at it this from another angle
THG will borrow the money to buy out - let’s call them/ us the outsiders - the Company carries the debt not MM
It’s extremely tax efficient, service debt , leave principle in place
MM then enjoys a ‘ carry ‘ which is over and above his current equity stake of 15%, it could be 10% or even 15% either way it will be decent
It’s win win for MM
I disagree that the intention is to take this private. I think they are releasing these bids (from, at first, friendly parties) to act as training wheels for the market. A guide as to how to properly value the company, to act as remediation for the share price.
They're going to drip feed, at first small, then increasing bids - because there will be further, more genuine, bids (and from not so friendly parties) and the market will be encouraged to infer the true value of the company again, off the back of private equity valuations, and chase them back up the share price.
These bids get the ball rolling again, that's all, but the intention will not be to take this share private. There's nothing to gain from that. Moulding would be ceding his business to the very people who funded the last year's worth of negative press, co-ordinated shorting and price manipulation. Everyone knows someone was behind it all. Someone wanted this company because it's a good company, but they weren't willing to pay the going market price for it (at the time, 600p+), so instead they paid to destroy sentiment around it, to get the press to attack the valuation of its assets, to say no-one understands it, no-one can value it, to say it's probably even worthless, to attack the golden share that would stop them acquiring it, to attack Moulding himself, relentlessly, hoping he'd stand aside or step away, hoping, ultimately, to swoop in for it on the cheap.
If it looks like this to us, it looked like this to Moulding. He's spent 18 years building this company from nothing, and if they can carry on doubling revenues every 3 years then, in not very long, you will invariably earn some obscenely high valuations as a publicly traded stock. I think he has the patience to see that.
So I don't think this is what some people here hope it is - those in for a short term, and ultimately, underwhelming gain, of maybe 2-3x on an uneventful takeover. If one really entertains what genuine PE offers might be considered, you'd have to look well over £10. Matt mooted separation of the business last year because he felt 800p undervalued the business - why on earth would he accept £2.50 for it a year later, when its done nothing but grow stronger. Similarly, why would he want to take it private, at substantial personal expense, probably also diluting his own holding and allowing (what has been) a hostile party to usurp control - and taking it off the market where he can no longer profit directly from the growth of the business. Taking a business private is great if it's in the stage where it's generating high and sustained profit, but not so good in the pre-profit expansion phase. Ultimately they'd have to take it public all over again, and, probably, go through the same thing again, but on a different scale, arriving back where they started but having been diluted for the privilege. Bezos didn't take amazon private for $20 in 2001 when it dropped from $112 to $8. Neither will Matt.