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Trinity
Sorry mate but for a numpty like me that's a "how long is a piece of string "I'm afraid
Quatar I believe was an offer that would have helped protect not just their holding here but also they have a large amount of Bonds to protect ? I guess that is still applicable ? They pulled the offer only because the aal certainly protected the bonds !
So it seems" highly likely" they would again ??? what do you value" highly likely" at ??? 75% maybe bwtfdik ....imo
Trinity as you have seen I am gobby numpty so my posts should be taken with a pinch of salt that's why I try to add IMO as often as I can ,
You could say that due to the situation we find ourselves in ? none of us here made a wise investment as it seems the lenders see a different set of fundamentals to the ones we see ?
Sorry to fence sit but you ask the $64,000 question my friend .
Fred , that's fantastic count me in
ffc
FFC - The absolute key questions here are, 'In percentage terms, how sure are you that the Quataris will come back in with their bridging loan? How sure are you that you won't lose all of your investment.' Give me a % figure.
I know I'm putting you on the spot here, but as an individual retail investor, your 'no' vote (along with mine and thousands of others) may put this into admin and there is no information in the public domain coming out of Quatar to make a truly informative decision.
Hope you lose the crutches sooner rather than later.
ATVB
Bullish
We have not been asked if we would dip into our pockets and I'm convinced some IIs would too( remember Steve Davies)
and Qatar's offer of 100 million bridge ??
The bod have said "likely" administration ? yes we must remember that as well !!! BUT ...............
: https://fundsirius.com/
I don’t doubt you’re decisions are based on logic and reasoning FFC. I’ve seen lots of your posts over the months and you’re clearly informed and educated, but I wasn’t talking about you. Indeed if my original comment about voting in anger didn’t register with you, that just confirms it. But there are a significant number of people out their considering voting no, purely based on emotion. That’s nothing but a bad thing. By all means vote no if you have reasons other than spiting CF
This board is literally designed for people to put their beaks in, it is it’s primary function. Plus as a former shareholder, a Yorkshireman, and someone who would love to be able to invest again, I feel I have a right to comment.
bullish I'm voting NO because I believe in the fundamentals and a way forward re Funding.! read my posts and you will see the whilst I feel let down by the BOD I myself am not out for blood ( but i understand that others are )
Personally I think your opinion as to this being for spiteful reason to be way off the mark , a huge % here believe in a future as Sirius Minerals not aal !
Bull-ish
like i said people with no investment here should keep their beaks out.
What I am saying is what plenty of others have also said, don’t vote no purely based on emotion because you’re only hurting yourself and others. If you don’t agree with that statement you’re a dick.
Absolute rubbish bullish and you know it
You buy shares at your own risk and you should sell them if you believe you will lose out here !!
you are just making mischief and you know it ..
to all those out there that are voting NO please remember the risks !
to all those voting yes please remember the risks !
and when deciding if you buy or sell please remember the risks !
Nobody here owes anything to anybody here ,, FACT
Now if your worried that much bullish feel free to buy a few votes ! but I'm glad you have accepted it's nothing to do with you atm.
Nothing to do with me chief, I don’t hold shares in Sirius anymore, but people should absolutely think of others, that’s why the world is in such a mess, because nobody does. I just don’t like the idea of some old bloke losing what’s left of his badly invested savings, just because some mardy bum votes no on angry principle.
People here asking CF and the BoD to think of them, but can’t extend the same courtesy. As you say, each to their own, but the words cut, nose and spite come to mind.
Who knows what will happen, I wish everyone the best, but I personally think voting no will lead to losing everything.
" and everyone else’s investment"
Bull-ish it is up to each individual to vote as they please don't start any carp about thinking of others now .. if you are worried a no vote will lose you money sell up ? 5.5p was available only a week ago !
ffc
At this point I feel like voting no is just throwing away the rest of your, and everyone else’s investment. I’d love to be proven wrong but I’ve lost faith in the BOD to deliver the project, but for the area I would like to see it complete so maybe AAL could do that. Everyone has to make their own decision, but ultimately it’s emotional investment decisions that got people into the mess some of them are in.
Such a shame how this all worked out, such a great project.
Thanks tex, looked at that pub there’s a pawn brokers next door, might come in handy lol.
To be honest I always get the train into the City. I am just north of London. Personally I would train it, 5 to 10 mins walk from Moorgate.
The HAC say this on their website.
At evenings and weekends we are generally able to offer a very limited amount of parking although this is not something that we are able to guarantee. At weekends parking is free on the surrounding roads after 1pm on Saturday. The closest NCP carpark is opposite the HAC at Finsbury Square.
Tex is the any parking, or is this a train job?
The Windmill is close. Not been in but looks ok from the outside.
27 Tabernacle St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4DE
"Honestly chilting
I'm not sure what your remit is anymore ? I have always enjoyed your posts but you seem a little desperate to warn us all here?"
Wow, you are actualy questioning someone who spells out the exceptionally high probability that anyone voting no votes for losing everything. And yet, you proudly advocate voting NO over and over as if you're in some sort of gang who is winning a childing game. "starting to take US siriously"? Really? Voting no means you are accepting wipe-out and any possibility of something better arising from the ashes is in single digit percentages. At best.
For some, it makes no difference to lose the last few remaining money in the post so happy to spite the deal - for many others, it's still vital to come out with whatever is offered. The shafted become the shaftees, to fellow shafteds.
Tex
I have contacted HL about attending the meeting and am fairly sure I will make it , is there a good meeting place close by for some here gather before hand ? I would like to put a few faces to a few names that's for sure !
Be good to make a plan maybe ?
ffc
I agree with an element of that. Not all of it. Strong local support was part of the key to securing the planning, but in the end it came down to the S106 package and the benefits that would bring.
I was at the meeting.
Hi FFC - Yes, I take the movement seriously. I just hope people are voting with their eyes open to the possible outcomes and probabilities (I think generally they are).
Each person has a different situation. I would imagine that with each day that passes the ‘no’ vote becomes stronger as anyone who would want to vote ‘yes’ should really just sell up now to safeguard at least 5p.
For me, I am waiting for the vote outcome and then deciding if there is a possibility for another buy into the share.
I still think there are some people who need to take financial advise before voting just to avoid any head scratching once this thing plays out.
GLA.
Codswallop. It wouldn't be underwritten if the underwriters didn't think we would take up the offer
Ok then Scotsman what about planning. Without strong support from the local community there’d be no planning and no mine and many locals would be much better off financially. Agreed?
Theres an alternative finance.rpm shackles and fraser not involved thou
“ Sod Fraser and the jobs without our money there’d be no project and no jobs. ”
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That is complete codswallop LTV. If you want to garner support for your NO campaign, then at least base it on facts.
The previous fundraisers were underwritten. The company will have received the monies regardless of it being institutional or retail.
Did you forget about the ‘clawback’?
19 million that should instead be paid to shareholders - doesn't Fraser understand why shareholders are so angry with him?