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Trades pushing to the top of Ask.
Liking it, but I can't find any reference to A trades on the list, only AT for SETS, which is a different system for 100 or 250 level.
So we need Blue Cap approval to launch in China, similar to EFSA over here. Anyone know what the agenda is? Can't find info re MOU firming to a firm deal. A load of Q's to answer! The IP looks undervalued though if we can take a guess on that in relation to market cap.
Made a start over last session, I don't wear it that a safe product which can help millions of Chinese to survive pollution, supports elite Olympic level athletes, extends the lives (probably) for hundreds of millions re platelet aggregation leading to thrombosis! blood pressure reduction re Uni of Oslo which is a World Class institution.
I'll go for the main point that the IP is valuable, start with that and work through the rest.
sphinx 100:- you quote true facts about the long term alliance between DSM and Provexis and highlights to me that something very big is in the pipe line:- (note Dr.Niamh, our research chemist, appointed to board with immediate effect has been working for Provexis since the year 2000..
Note;-
" Strategy, co-ordination, organisation and implementation will be governed by an Alliance Board with representatives from both companies."
"The agreement is based on a long-term cooperation between the partners."
Note>-
"The Alliance will give DSM exclusive global rights to Fruitflow and will see the partners collaborate to develop Fruitflow® in all major global markets, through an effective commercialisation of current formats and pioneering new and significant applications. Strategy, co-ordination, organisation and implementation will be governed by an Alliance Board with representatives from both companies. The agreement is based on a long-term cooperation between the partners."
And the last RNS on the 12th April 2019:- (stating with immediate effect)
and thats on top of DSM's executive Director with all his global contacts just recently appointed to Provexis board,
clearly shows to me that some thing very big is in the Pipe Line as Dr Niamh O'Kennedy who has been working with Provexis since the year 2000 has now been appointed as an executive director representing Provexis in the partnership.. (some thing big in the pipe line in my opinion,) something to do with the collaboration deal between Provexis and DSM and the Chinese company By-Health who is further researching the many benefits of Fruitflow at its own cost. . IMHO
All looking good and the last time a collaboration deal was going on between Provexis and Co ca Cola the share price shot up from 0.6p to 15p in less then a yea until the deal fell through..
"Provexis, the business that develops, licenses and sells the proprietary, scientifically-proven Fruitflow® heart-health functional food ingredient, is pleased to announce the appointment of Dr Niamh O'Kennedy an Executive Director of the Company, and as Chief Scientific Officer, with immediate effect."
"Niamh is a research chemist, specialising in the field of natural products chemistry, who has been working with Provexis since 2000. Niamh's experience in isolating and characterising plant-derived compounds and understanding the roles these play in complex biological systems has been pivotal in the development of Provexis' lead product, Fruitflow®, and the health claim for Fruitflow® which was adopted by the European Food Safety Authority ('EFSA')."
BB had a read of the 2010 results and found this interesting , “Initially the Company, supported by IFR’s substantial research, will focus on developing commercial products targeting the reduction of cardiovascular inflammation. A longer-term objective is to develop technologies designed to mitigate the risk of certain major cancers.” I wonder what happened with that research !
Just checked my notes, I was close, but not 100% correct.
The agreement runs till 2022, so could be a bit less than 12 years.
My notes tell me that info was in the Interim report for the six month ending in Sept 2010, which should still be available from provexis.org ( I havn't checked though )
Anyway, come on Citeh ffs ...
BB
Pumpky
The AA was put in place for a 12 year period, so is due to run out some time in 2022 ( probably June if it's exactly 12 years ). I don't have the link to hand, but it was in an RNS once ( only once though if memory serves me right )
BB
The Alliance will give DSM exclusive global rights to Fruitflow andwill see the partners collaborate to develop Fruitflow® in all major global markets, through an effective commercialisation of current formats and pioneering new and significant applications. Strategy, co-ordination, organisation and implementation will be governed by an Alliance Board with representatives from both companies. The agreement is based on a long-term cooperation between the partners.
DSM will be responsible for: manufacturing; marketing; and selling via its global sales force. Provexis will be responsible for contributing scientific expertise necessary for successful commercialisation.
Profits from the Alliance will be shared by the parties on an agreed basis, linked to various performance milestones. All other commercial terms of the Alliance remain confidential between the two parties.
I don't think they issue RNS for a conversation, but I believe the AA one in 2010 has the detail. Look back that far if you care to.
Let's hope the fair deal isn't for much longer (csn I find that information in a Rns? ) Then hopefully Pxs will make a profit, that's the name of the game!!
Does anyone know what pxs could potentially be worth? I appreciate that this would usually be calculated on sales and profits which at the moment fail to cover costs. However, what might a take over look like? What is the IP worth to a company like DSM, by health etc? Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of similar companies, products, IP etc that have come good and to what extent? Thanks.
Fair point. One of the issues causing less buying is the lack of transparency in both the sales of all the Fruitflow products on the market, and the details of the profit share agreement signed in 2010. It was pointed out to me in a discussion that the agreement hasn't got that much longer to run. As you rightly say, that's another thing that could be viewed positively or negatively. The tiresome part is the compulsion P/C feels to retort with an unanswerable point.
Tiresome slightly, unnecessary, not if your looking to buy into here. Confidential but fair to both party's. While some see a glass half full, others will tell you it's half empty.
Meaning?
As far as I can see, what Nigel has written is factual. The Chinese collaboration to further research and develop Fruitflow is yet to be signed, but they've already had a year's worth of studies funded solely by themselves.
All of which is stating the bleedin obvious of course.
Pumpky/Cinders can't help having a dig no matter what, knowing full well that the terms of the Alliance Agreement remain confidential. Tiresome and unnecessary IMO
Not another parallel universe posting?
Thanks guys, just a quick read during break. Will look a bit deeper but what I understand is that pxs licence Fruitflow to DSM who have a deal with the Chinese large firm.
No Deal with a massive Chinese company yet! And if you research further,you may find the profit split!!
Preaching to the choir perhaps?
More if you dig deeper.
Unusual company, quick research flagged up a few facts.
A tomato based extract product
Totally safe reduction in blood pressure
Reduces blood clot risk with NO?? side effects
Potential use in protecting against pollution related disease.
Some revenue?? from dozens of licenced products
Deal with enormous Chinese health manufacturer!
6 mil market cap.
Can t sell anything over 250k at the moment
Fruitflow health benefits aimed at Women:-
https://megsmenopause.com/conference/?utm_source=Fruitflow+Subscriptions&utm_campaign=52ebbd16dc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_03_08_08_14&utm
Promoting the many health benefits of Fruitflow and the Chinese company By-Health is right now doing more tests to further highlight more health benefits from our Fruitflow:-
https://www.provexis.org/?news=fruitflow-omega-3-natural-organic-products-europe-show 5
https://www.provexis.org/?news=fruitflow-omega-3-foodvalley-update-magazine-netherlands 3
https://www.provexis.org/?news=fruitflow-flyfit-at-the-world-travel-catering-onboard-services-expo-hamburg 2
Sport and exercise recovery:-
Continuing to promote the many health benefits of Fruitflow in the latest update magazine in the Netherlands:-
https://www.provexis.org/?news=fruitflow-omega-3-foodvalley-update-magazine-netherlands
Anybody puts a post up; well.
You cannot police the board and decide if someone can or cannot post a response.
It's a free world.
If you wish to avoid a response; do not post. Simple
Crikey!
As I said, no more from me on that topic.
Made that response unnecessary I would have thought.
Each to their own
Chat on here,there's nothing happening with the company at the moment! !