Lloyds Share Chat (LLOY)

be looking to buy back all the shares i sold last tuesday be interesting to see how much farther they can fall before i buy....BIG data week in the us...interesting week coming up....gla.

Looks like a small correction is happening to an extent...

May buy back some of my recent sales if this falls further...retail sakes tomorrow interesting...have a good day all

Theosus,

You do amuse me with your comments related to Northern Europe/Ukraine.

On a general note, I never thought that I would see a time that humanity was such a disorganised mess with so little commonality in their economic interests. Clearly, I now realise this was more fool me ... humanity as a species may well be predictable (how else did Warren Buffet get so rich?) ... only I failed to predict the unimaginable level of economic heterogeneity in 2022.

T
ffs you have now progressed to having a link to the Moscow times.
what next Al Jazeera ?

Lti,
Not just oil & gas though....
Major supplier of metals and this will be increasing as Nickel, Cobalt and Platinium demand soars due to climate change agreements.

Lti,
Sanctions as codswallop anyway, there are always "loopholes" around a lot of them unless it's military.
Sanctions do not stop big business.

iv said before they make all this stuff next to me the military movements have been in over drive at night for the last three months its all quiet now so its all ready there

Bum
Oil and gas make up 60% of Russian exports

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/09/04/cheese-bolstered-by-sanctions-russias-fledgling-cheese-industry-takes-first-steps-a67143

Bumble
Don't let the Poles know its all in your view a big hoax.. They have signed a contract with Uk giant MBDA to make an anti missile system and have signed an agreement to buy 250 Abrahams tanks worth $6bn
As for sanctions LTI.
One word cheese.. That worked well for the EU..

Lti,
Sanctions are a two way street!
Anyway it's all bluster and games, a non event.
I'm not concerned one jot and I hold a lot of companies with ties to Russia.

"If there's anything less likely than Russia invading Ukraine its the Americans going in there to try and take it back."

Russia won't invade Ukraine, so the U.S. doesn't need to think about it anyway imo. It's just a non story, and game play in the Geopolitical arena. The US going into Iraq, or invading Afganistan, doesn't come close to the repercussions of a Ukraine invasion by Russia. Going off some of the rhetoric, it's more likely that China would invade Taiwan, and I don't see how that would happen either.
If China, or Russia, want to change the world and initiate a cold war that'll last decades, then they might move, but is that what they want?

Bum
''its the Americans going in there to try and take it back.''

but there would be a severe financial cost to Russia to pay - sanctions etc

sk1
17.20 - ditto
The things that people who want a crash will write on a lloyds board - desperation.

Fleccy,
If there's anything less likely than Russia invading Ukraine its the Americans going in there to try and take it back.
I've got more chance of jumping over the moon tonight!

sk1
17.12 - ditto
The things that people who want a crash will write on a lloyds board - desperation.

"This fear we feel, now, about Ukraine, is phase 1 in the West's (probably unstoppable) decline. The US, NATO, and democracy are losing control of the world. Let's all hope Russia steps back from the brink..."

Skier, I'm not sure why you're posting about this on a Lloyds Forum, or what your point is. Russia could invade the Ukraine, and the US as the foremost military power in the World, will probably decide to stop short of a full on conventional war to retake the country; But there's no chance of Russia going into Ukraine, imo.
History suggests that invasions are unsustainable, over time, unless the invaded population are sympathetic to the invading force, which is why Russia and the US were unsuccessful in Afganistan.
If Russia did invade the Ukraine, then the World would be back in to a 1960/70's Cold War type era, and Russia wouldn't want that. It would initially be difficult for Europe, due to Energy dependency, but it would likely drive the EU to become a full on military union, possibly morphing into a military as powerful as the US, but literally on Russia's doorstep. Geopolitically it would drive the UK to rejoin the new European state emerging into a military federal Union, and replacing the EU.
What I've just stated, may be supposition, but it's highly likely that would happen, as it's what France are pushing for now. Russia wouldn't want another super power emerging right next door, as that would eventually lead to the Eastern block being destabilised over time. Russia invading Ukraine, no chance, unless they want to create a rod for their own back.

sk1
16.49
The things that people who want a crash will write on a lloyds board - desperation.

no doubt you are stockpiling in that bunker of yours

Yup, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, even Sweden and Norway, anywhere in the East or North or Arctic, look (and feel) very afraid of Russia's newfound global power.

This fear we feel, now, about Ukraine, is phase 1 in the West's (probably unstoppable) decline. The US, NATO, and democracy are losing control of the world. Let's all hope Russia steps back from the brink...

Russia cares not a jot about the rest of the world.

Russia was able to waltz into deepest England (Salisbury) and kill / maim people with WMDs in 2018 -- and the West could do nothing about it.

Lol. Germany, France, Italy and Spain have lost every major war since the 1800s. The chance of the EU stopping Russia marching into Ukraine, or East Poland, or anywhere on the Eastern borders, if Russia really wants to, is about zero.

You gotta hope this is just posturing from Russia, for concessions. Or that they only take a tiny part of East Ukraine and it lasts a fortnight. Because a full-on war, over a month or two, bringing Ukraine back into the New Russian Empire, is not a good prospect for anyone.

skier1
He will no doubt also have his eye on both
Tallinn - Estonia and
Riga - Latvia
If the Russians attack in dinghys it will render any UK weapons useless....
Best stock up on Beluga Vodka
jcb
Well, we will soon find out but I don't think you are going to be far wrong with that...

The rest of the world are watching Russia. its not just the UK providing assistance. Remember that other little bloc called the EU ! Jesus you may as well get your sandwich board out ! But your thought process on the forensics of Russian dead soldiers made me laugh out loud !

Yes, Ukraine looks terrifying, right now.

Putin's buildup on the border is 2 x bigger than the entire UK army.
If Russia piles in, Ukraine will be overrun in weeks.

That, in turn, will accelerate China to take Taiwan.
And Taiwan builds 60% of all the world's electronic chips.

Some say Russia will then move to take other parts of Europe, like East Poland (near Belarus).

UK is also supplying arms to Ukraine.
If Ukraine takes out large numbers of Russian soldiers with UK arms in a war, Mr Putin will not be a happy chappy.

The scenario for a full-on global or European war and economic crash is closer now than it has been since the last century.