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@st tropez, Chris whitty stated recently he'd be extremely suprised if there is NOT a big covid problem by Christmas and winter 2021. Enjoy the freedom while you can. Safely and intelligently, of course. Avoid busy beaches, protests and young adults who no longer care for social distancing!
Gloria
Couldn’t agree more about a false economy. The governments are absolutely inept.
Every town in the country should have access to a free test on demand for every citizen. This is not because I’m invested in GDR or ODX. It’s a basic necessity now until a long term vaccine is found. Instead our governments are too busy filling the pockets of the rich / the donors / the connected ones. Propping up the stock markets... it’s just horrible, but the small people don’t matter.
The whole world would've been better off if the WHO's advice in january of "test,test,test" had been assumed. But politicians always think they know better. Lifestyles change and companies should go bust and other companies should grow accordingly. Far too much time and QE is spent on keeping multi-nationals propped up. It's a sordid, corrupt face of capitalism. If governments cared for the lives of the citizens they are mandated to protect, GDR and companies like it would be 500p+ with huge orders for mass testing. But we live in a corrupt world. Good companies DO not make it, yet bad ones are kept propped up by tax-payers money.
No-one knows whether GDR will get sales even if it is given FDA approval, yet at 120+p per share it needs to deliver sales and lots of them.
A bad second wave could absolutely overwhelm the NHS.
They say a second wave is always worse than the first one. Coupled with cold weather, flu, cold, winter, people inside more than outside.
It is also the case that the lockdown was imposed to stop the NHS getting overwhelmed. A hospital in North London was apparently approaching that, and the Govt wanted to avoid the sort of pictures coming out of Spain and Italy of people dying in corridors. Labour would never ever have let that go. They panicked, and locked down. They were quite open that it was about protecting the NHS. And it is now clear that even a bad second wave won’t overwhelm the NHS. It honestly is not that clear how many lives have been saved by locking down. But the virus is still around, it’s not going anywhere, and Govt will never admit lockdown might not have been necessary. So they will buy good tests, in vast quantities. It will reassure the public, and hey, it ain’t their money, is it?
NewBoy, globally they’re increasing again sadly...
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19
The recent surges in new cases is now filtering through to the deaths counts and they’re rising once more. Test, test, test, we need to reduce the transmission rate and that is only possibly by identifying and isolating those infected.
The reason the UK is not continuing with strict lockdown measures is an economic one...they want businesses to get as much money in before the inevitable and expected 2nd wave hits and they are forced to. They are letting frustrated people vent off some steam as the weather is making people want to go outside... I doubt all the friggin marches and protests would be so busy if it was peeling down or icy cold.
Agreed st.
Equally the Chinese as a society are much more compliant. The are much well versed in virus outbreaks.. take the SARs outbreak not to long back.
Was speaking to my gf, she is of Chinese descent, lots of family in Shanghai. Claimed that due to internet restrictions out there, they are unable to do real research on the virus/its implications and so rumours spread like wildfire and they are generally very fearful of ot due to previous virus outbreaks, as such are more compliant. Add into that the gov their who wont hesitate to enforce.
At the height of their lockdown, 1 member of the household was allowed to leave once per week to go food shopping.
In Europe I can not see it sticking. Look at the photos from the past 3 weekends in the uk. Mooching about like the virus is gone. Our democratic society, in these instances where we have a virus spreading, makes it more difficult to contain and so testing needed on a much wider scale.
Some real insightful posts last 24 hours btw, was a good read.
Maybe is should add the daily number of deaths going down, not the cumulative obvs....
The good thing is the number of deaths going down... as treatment gets better the virus gets a lot less scary... Testing will be needed for a long time, it's going no where but we seem to be getting better at treatment...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/status/1277003440464498688
At least, not in the USA.