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When you say secretly, what you mean is I don't share the information with this board or indeed you, what makes me (and others) suspicious of u is the continues blowing of smoke up Rufus's ass when we can all see how much shareholder value he added, how many rounds of dilution, consolidation, potential customers, potential output. What make us suspicious of you are the texts that only you seem to confess to getting, the meetings at AGM with Rufus, from which you profess to be corporate policy, but only it you telling us it's corporate policy not Rufus in a RNS.
So the questions are, what is your connection to Rufus? Are you related to Rufus? Are you being paid to promote Edenville? I have a feeling we are beginning to unearth something. As had been said, let's see your reaction, is the best form of defence attack? Will you draw on your friends to bash me? Ridicule me? Or will you simply answer the questions?
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Sausage Oh sorry, you do it all secretly!!
So ALL' the (secret) correspondence' with Tim PR and the MEM that you profess to have done doesn't make you suspicious, but because I text and get replies from the then company CEO (who I have met on many occasions) and Tim)) and make it public somehow suddenly makes me suspicious! lol
All imo pdyor
Greenwood
Sums aerial up to a T.
Well done, you said 99% of my thought re: aerial
GW
You're obviously a hero !!
aerial - apologies but I've been on a call since 6.30pm discussing the slightly more important thing of saving people's lives and protecting their health.
I'm not going to spend time looking for the number of posts you have talked about the "foresight" of our BoD etc but most people on here will know it's regularly used to defend the BoD and Rufus. Like I say, you keep all the posts on here offline so you could do a search really easily and quickly yourself and share that.
I've concluded you are clearly unwilling to answer the question I've now posted twice.
I don't actually care who you are or who you know (or claim to know). The flip side of that is you have do not know who I am or, similarly, who I know. You have no idea whether I have spoken to or know personally members of our board, past or present, no idea what I have done in relation to Edenville (in a similar way to what Sausage mentioned) and more importantly what influence I have as a shareholder, because you don't actually know either what percentage I own personally or whether I have commercial interests in Edenville via other means. You also have no idea if I know someone that knows you.
The only "perverse obsession" with you is whether you have, or have had, an agenda here, but to be honest I’ll keep my own thoughts on that to myself.
You have spent the best part of nine years on this board (everyday did you say?), take great delight in posting things around buys at full ask, defending Rufus and the BoD etc and generally dismissing people who don't agree with your views. It then tends to fall to a further level around accusing people of not even being invested, being somebody else in disguise or having some other ulterior motive.
You view yourself as an all seeing oracle on this share and better than others because of your number of posts, your attendance at AGMs and the info you gleam from your friendly chats with members of the BoD. What was it you said to Sausage – something around you offered to pay for his train fare to attend the AGM – wouldn’t you find that condescending if someone said that to you?
And when people challenge you, it is indeed full in your face and you look for support of your “mates” to intimidate people, as nicely demonstrated below.
If I had one wish on this share it would be we get an almighty spike so I can sell out at break even and not have to engage with people like you.
I'm off for a beer because the short meeting I've just been on was a little upsetting and puts life into perspective. Despite my rants with you, I'll wish everyone on this board a safe evening.
bE
I think perversely he has got a bone !! lol
Ask it again!
aerial - still avoiding the question.
GW
No I'm really larrysumbawangajogonsongrayson!!
If you knew me personally (as very many across these boards do) unlike you).... you'd know I don't avoid anything or anyone. I'm a pretty much in your face type of person. I look forward to meeting you!
Oh, still waiting for the list of my 'trumping success' posts!! and even maybe a snippet in Swahili from the illusive secret sausage..
We can talk about your perverse obsession with me another day !
Foxi you are like a dog without a bone
Aerial - the question you seem so intent on avoiding has been put in a far more simple form at the bottom of my last post
"So, why are you so quick to both praise and defend our BoD, and in particular Rufus, when they are even mildly criticised on here? Are you on the payroll or something?"
GW
Your memory really isn't very good ?
You just asked "where in my post did I (you) talk about the success of the company?" Today 15:59 bottom line: "It's about you (me) trumpeting the success of our BoD especially Rufus"
You say you can fine hundreds of posts where I trumpet on about the success of the company Wow.... I said you won't find a 'S I N G L E' post of mine anywhere saying about the success of the company !!
Looking forward to seeing these posts !!!
p.s.
Sorry I need to pick on specific words, it just that that is the specific word you used...
All imo pdyor
Not me foxi
Ah, bigeye - clearly it was you who recommended Aerial's last post and you're helping him out to avoid the really difficult question he's getting asked.
For the third time it is NOT about my investment. We are where we are and I chose to invest here. (Happy now?). But on the same line, it's the BoD's success or failure that drives the market sentiment and share price, not me.
And Aerial - stop the picking on specific words from posts - where in my post did I talk about the success of the company? Perhaps I can point you to hundreds of posts where you have been "trumpeting the success of our BoD especially Rufus", which is the phrase I used. If you do a search on the word "foresight" in the offline copy of posts you have, you can do it yourself in two minutes
So, why you are so quick to both praise and defend our BoD, and in particular Rufus, when they are even mildly criticised on here? Are you on the payroll or something?
GW
You won't find a post of mine anywhere saying about the success of the company, sadly you've resorted to making things up !
All imo pdyor
Full circle vixi, its called risk V reward and all that goes with it---------obviously this making you ___ yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aerial - the feeling is mutual but perhaps come out of the politicians outfit and stop avoiding the point.
It's not about buying the shares - that's my decision and I stand by it.
It's about you trumpeting the success of our BoD especially Rufus and why you do this - that's the question.
GW
You know what they say about a bad workman! If you need someone to blame I suggest you start by looking at that bad person that held you down and forced you to buy shares here ! ?? What part of I don't give a **** don't you understand?
All imo pdyor
All imo pdyor
aerial - "Hardly an e-mail from an investor that has this company's interest at heart" - and what about the company having investors' interests at heart? We could start with communication and shareholder value? They currently seem to be on lockdown around comms – why? You can't furlough everyone - somebody has to run the company.
Rufus has failed - we're losing money, we're in debt and we've tied our assets into a CLF which, if Lind did pull the plug, ends everything. We’re struggling to raise money, paying debt in shares, diluting shareholder value etc etc etc. The “jam tomorrow” line doesn’t wash anymore with the market – our MCap reflects that.
And the failure seems to have come from a decision to start small scale mining without sufficient experience within the ranks to fully understand the risks. That wasn't foresight - that was a reckless decision based upon pound signs. We know it’s gone catastrophically wrong, because that’s why they bought in Alistair’s experience. But four years too late.
The only people really exposed in this are us PIs. A number of us have managed to trade our average's down, but I suspect most PIs here are tens of thousands down. I don’t see anyone within “the company” struggling financially from this?
The dream here was RCPP – in essence that’s gone. A potential fallback to open cast mining has failed and is rapidly consuming more and more borrowed money. That’s the crux of it and all this c**p about foresight of the bod and how brilliant Rufus et al have been is nonsense.
I just don’t get why you keep saying it and surely you can understand why some of us on here simply get riled by it – what exactly has this BoD done for you or any PIs apart from use your money and slowly, but surely, diminish the chances of ever getting a return? I’ve no doubt even you would be out if you could get back to your average.
BE - Nobi probably bought in at 1079p a share for AML.....
Hardly an e-mail from an investor that has this company's interest at heart.
All imo pdyor
I find it hard to believe in secret squirrels, especially if its potentially beneficial news for ones investment !
On the other hand, suspect news is always on this BB.
Nobi nearly bagged another aston !!!!! Touch wood and all that!!!!!
GW
Significant?.
Aerial/Saus - I am still awaiting word the BOD have contacted the UK tax authorities and are now taking taking the government money (80%) and not spending EDL money on salaries.
Aerial - I think the most significant point Sausage seems to be making is your continued defence and praise of a failing / failed CEO, but that's just how I read it. GW
Sausage Oh sorry, you do it all secretly!!
So ALL' the (secret) correspondence' with Tim PR and the MEM that you profess to have done doesn't make you suspicious, but because I text and get replies from the then company CEO (who I have met on many occasions) and Tim)) and make it public somehow suddenly makes me suspicious! lol
All imo pdyor