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@LPD The judgement won't be published until then, but the decision has probably already been made.
If you have ever seen the size of these judgements, they run to several hundred pages, so the delay isn't in coming to the conclusion, it's the writing up of the justifciation that takes the time.
Maybe someone's relative or friend works as a secretary/ in the reprograghics department or whatever and saw an early draft or initial thoughts.
Live now on Bloomberg, Biden says there will be NO U.S lockdowns.
Wellington - I hadn’t thought of the court angle, did think it was a possibility that they knew when the variant would be publicised. That would stink more than my conspiracy theory from earlier.
Interesting thought Wellington but reasoning we never get to know on here. In truth probably wide of the mark and based on what you yourself posted.
Posted in: CINE
Court Case Timing20 Nov 2021 14:32
Cineplex did an update call that had a small mention of the case:
"Before I turn things over to Gord, I would like to provide a brief update on the Cineworld litigation. As you may have heard, the trial has now concluded with the closing arguments having finished last week, we feel confident in the integrity of the process that unfolded before the Ontario Superior Court and anticipate that judgment several months. "
That would suggest February onwards if several is taken to mean "more than two but not manymore"
Sorry I’ve missed this. Do we have a rough time expectation for the judgement?
I am very insecure very very very
Please all like me can i have some tea with you all
Where do you get such dribble
We only ever got on to numbers after somoene yet another one wanted to add the 10p worth
As i said will show the sells at the end and add your name now for you £500 in the good causes box
Just write add next to your name and we will see if your still here in 2022 unlike me i will be
Of for dinner on my own now sad person with no mate
Call me billy
What a crap end to the day
FTSE 100, 250 and 350 only + 1% too
I thought it was a strange time to short us.
I went back 7 pages on the short data and couldn't find them , very unusual te to join the party
@LPD The volume today could also mean a shorter selling into the rally.
If the Toronto, Ontario based K2 & Associates pop up again with a bigger short over the next few days then I think we can be pretty sure that someone's cousin works in the Court House and knows something.
They have no previous interest in Cineworld as far as I'm aware and to wait until the SP hits the mid 50s to start shorting is very odd - why not do it in the 70s and 80s, not much has changed?
The only reason that an Ontario based 'Event Driven' hedge fund would choose now to start shorting is if a piece of information has just become available.
Perhaps from the Ontario based Court which is hearing the multi-billion dollar case?
Absolutely stinks and I hope it's investigated.
Bonkers - posting how much dollar you have invested is usually linked to insecurity. There's a lot of distain for BC but pity is probably more appropriate. Seeking approval by posting fictional numbers on an investment bulletin stoops to the lowest of desperation and self-confidence.
Been here a lot longer then 90% on here have a look
No rocked up anything .
Sang the same story from day one
£1.50 - £2 2022
I was just saying what a great time to buy
Who knows ktp I'm certainly not in them circle's, just a small investor trying to make some dough.
The idea of multiple country's coming together over a new variant and holding on releasing the news all so the stock markets crash I think is a bit far fetched , this is obviously my opinion , not saying its fact , already economy's around the world are struggling in areas , buissness closing down and to kick them in the Gonads so a few rich can become richer I'm personally not so sure.
Who knows wikileaks part 4 in 100 years time might say different , and after our annual injection of boosters and a new drug for ever lasting life you can come on here and tell me " see bonkers I told you so " while we wait for the s.p to hit 70p and some idiot shouting will be 120 by March 2223
I don't know how many shares, timeshifted , fun investor , Wellington, Lhall, Sammy, smalltrader , lpd , antmoss ,maddanus , breakfastbufett ,moneyp1t , number , Alex, hereshopin, ollops , Robin, p.w , and everyone else holds , the reason is because its irrelevant, the only common theme we all have is investing in cineworld.
When someone starts spouting how many shares they are buying and at large rates normally there's a reason to be suspicious, because at the end of the day its irrelevant and its to gain attention , not even his supporters post to him in support now , I think everyone is finally wising up to what he is.
Having the most shares in a company doesn't make you royalty and I once said a women with 3 kids putting 100 pounds into cineworld leaving a balance of 10 pound has more risk then someone buying 1 million pounds worth with 100k left in the bank.
Common themes is also rocking up here for a period of time and then all of a sudden disappearing and doing the same on another board , likelyhood he has sold what ever shares he had here and moved onto a different one before returning here.
Bonkers - what’s the saying about a lie being halfway around the world before the truth has put its trousers on…..lol gotta laugh
My avr is 55.8555 simple as that
Dont get the humb because i sold high and bought low
I have bought all the way down but bought a bigger chunk friday as i see this covid as over and under 50p
In a year or two you are x 3 x 4 you just can not turn that down
A plan to get the debt down
B a update to let us know that div will be back soon enough
Thta is what i would like to see and if we do on the next update this is £1++++ in a day
TOP UP WHILE YOU CAN
BC - we are still here, but you are irrelevant - a proven B ull sh itter.
We don't have to put our money where our fingers are because - well we aren't children - and I can call you a liar without having to play your silly game - you can choose to be a child now and say something like 'you don't have to b alls' and that is your choice - I'm comfortable enough in my own manhood to take that on the chin from a pathological liar that makes up his investment to gain likes on a BB.
Feel free to prove me wrong and copy a picture (not plain text as you like to do) and upload to snipboard.io (careful not to include personal details obviously) and I will apologise sincerely, but I don't see that happening because there is no proof for something that doesn't exist. But to be fair you don't have to prove anything, it is 100% your right not to need to prove yourself - and mine and everybody else's to call you a b ull s hitter.....a PI who has over £1.3m invested and spends his time shouting 'wooooooo' on here......yeah ok.
SoManyQuestions - you would be correct in that assumption - although just the one problem.....he also shared his trading history on the post that HeresHopin shared earlier - stating that he sold ONCE at 82.5p - and it was September when it was last at those prices (and I remember him telling us at the time to be fair to him - so we could bask in his glory)....BUT this was way before his 3rd November post of 850k @ an average of 71p. So I am simply using the information he himself provided.
But yeah I will concede that he might not have been as honest in that post as he makes out he is, and he might have missed a fictional sell or two - so yeah he could have sold more after the 3rd November (although I'm pretty sure we'd have heard from honest Joe if he had).
So do you genuinely think he is working with our friend Pawelbak and he saw the news coming about the new variant, knew the SP would drop and thought to himself to get out and get back in lower? (and uncharacteristically kept his mouth shut about it?).
I agree though mathematically, the less shares one purchased above a certain price would mean less shares would be needed to be bought below that same price to bring the average down to that level.
p.s. Pawelbak might have been right, but that doesn't mean he actually saw it coming - otherwise surely he would have made money from it.....and he didn't......so being right got him diddly squat.
World wide conspiracy too effect already heavily damaged markets.
Maybe just maybe a new variant formed , it spread as it naturally would , by the time it was noticed it had spread to different country's, country's then react to the new variant on news of multiple mutations , variant now seems like its not as bad as first feared , but it was all done for the love of money.
What people do for the green stuff right
One thing we can be sure of LPD is that when the tide turn and it will there are currently 120m of our shares held short. When they are forced to close them it will be a rapid rapid rise back to a fair value….was it Wellington that surmised that would be at least £1.50 per share. I, you and I’m sure every other LTH can’t wait for that day.
There might be dark forces at work KTP, and either they may be spending millions on trying to suppress the share price for existing holders or it might simply be the market makers taking the price down ahead of an anticipated good event, here - Spiderman NWH.
But in many respects you don't need to have thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions to keep throwing at maintaining the price.
*Firstly when the share price gets too low, not just PI's but Institutions buy in. Volume today indicates as such.
* Large events such as Spiderman No Way Home which have a disproportionately large effect on improving revenues and profitability attract in many more investors. Watch the number of new faces appearing.
* Thirdly and this is probably the most important one because you don't need £1K, £10k, £100k, £1M to actually get involved in reversing things. All you really need is £10, £20, £30, £40, £50, £75, or say £100 and what you do is when these big movies are coming up and advance releasing tickets, you book them, for yourself, your partners, the family and add your support to the cumulative figures. It should create its own headlines and brings in more attendees (and investors). The more that do it the merrier. So you get your tickets and a good choice of what normally becomes very scarce seating at key times but it also does so in a cumulative way that supports the film industry but it also contributes financially to the company you are invested in. The Dark forces you make mention of then have a dilemma whereby do they try and support their position further with throwing more cash at it (against a rising tide of appetite) or do they cease or maybe even go long. In that way all do your bit and if you can convince a few more to go then even better.
Just imho and I'm in for 4 Imax tickets (and working on a few more)
The Omicron episode looks to be abating with most losses being recovered (save for travel, for now) I can’t help thinking this isn’t and was never about a dangerous new variant, more a move to trigger a desired reaction, can’t put my finger on the motivations…….oh hang in a minute - MONEY, specifically other peoples money….Step 1. Find a willing DR to break the new variant (which isn’t as new as we were lead to believe, bearing in mind it’s everywhere) have them and an associate “professional” pump up the doom hype. Step 2. Make deals with a selected few investors and prime them. Step 3. Trigger a flash crash by releasing all the amplified doom at once. Step 4. Cash in, with the money scared out of the PI’ hands. Step 5. Have your DR & doom hype professionals to walk back their comments day by day, so as to obscure the obvious.
This is criminal in my opinion, part of what I’ve written above you can see for yourself, big short taken out on the 25th….news drops after trading closed on the 25th…..big profits cha ching and I’d bet money the initial dip to 0.47 was that same short closing. Friday 26th the DR who broke this variant started to walk back her comments on the likely severity of this variant.
If a working class carpenter can see this for what it is then why isn’t anyone being arrested, this can’t be legal.
Anyway thought I’d share a theory, just for fun.
MoneyPT1 the only problem with your analysis is assuming that BC didn't sell when averaging down. Which is pretty silly considering he told us many times that he sold.
I'm all for weeding out bull****ters but so far BC has been fairly spot on. And pawelbak (whether we like it or not) was right. I know I'm going to be taking inventory in my own beliefs because I for one could have profited much more if I took BC's approach.
WHERE HAVE YOU ALL GONE ?
I might just do that, thanks for the idea.
We really need to be at the forefront with all this new technology certainly not following in our competitors’ wake. They are creating a real fresh buzz with the cinema experience (the US in particular) and we obviously need to take advantage of it all and offer new, even better incentives ourselves. Out of the box stuff that really makes the shorts think twice about what the **** they are doing. The marketing department have been very much left wanting at times when opportunities presented themselves, the whole reopening I personally found incredibly lacklustre when it should have capitalised on the huge celebration that cinema was finally back.