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Won’t get fooled again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVdomcsjBA
Just rewatched Adam's Proactive interview. Lots of optimism and distinctly get the feeling orders are not far off. of course we've been led to this point before, but it does feel like this is the moment its starting to come together. Chart also "looking buoyant" :)
BB keep up mate, I'm actually agreeing with you that the last rise up to 24 was a spike.. I sold at the top of that one and bought back in at 17. If it now looks like passing 29 (without any news), then that would be my new spike and I would sell some.
Obviously if we get good news before that point I will be holding on right. So far we get rises and expect the company to tell us something. Then nothing happens and the price drifts down again.
I'm just going to start playing the rises.
Its simple, if I get it wrong I still have enough in the game to be happy, unless AFC get it wrong and it all goes t**s up.
Thanks for that update muscorum ..seems ironic that the area of Dunsfold is being Coveted by both green energy company AFC and fossil fuel company UKOG..and the nimbys are winning on both counts.The country is crying out for employment opportunities especially now of all times..let’s hope the powers that be overrule the nimbys
Fair play Rob, you’ve gain a lot of shares from doing that! Wish I had, who wouldn’t want more shares or a little profit; except BB apparently!
BB
All I'm saying it that there is still money to be made while we are sitting in this 20 something range. When I sold my shares I was going to sit on the cash until 'something' happened. Then the £31m cash raise happened, so I bought back in.
If it hits 29p and we still have no news from Bond, then I will sell 30% again...
And so on, and so forth..
Keeps it interesting and Im not sitting here waiting for AB to grace me with his soundbites.
Just reading through the archives so far of AFC..has there ever been an update on the dunsfold fuel cell grid trial..was it completed .i lost track of that one.
Yep, well I owe you a few pints in that case..
I recognise beer as a legitimate currency in these situations......
Athansius
I owe you one...??
That's exactly my point BB. I sold a chunk last time they were 24p and bought back at 17.1 post the offer, because of positive sentiment. If it rises now, but still no news I will sell again and wait for it to fall back. The pattern has been fairly consistent when you look back. So long as we have the news vacuum this is the only way to break the boredom.
If j had started doing this earlier instead of waiting for the magic £1. I would have been in a much better position today.
Not recommending it peeps, just saying ,that's all.
Make up your own mind.
If you got them 10 days ago at 16p and now they are 24p that is a big/decent spike in most books.
Where do I send the bill Robtheman??!!
ReoninV, following a post from Athansius, I think a little while back. I decided to start trading 30% of my holding when we have big spikes or big drops.
To date, this has made me an extra 70000 shares, and I think I will keep playing this game until we get some significant news. If I miss the big spikes, it's no problem since I will still have 70% of my shares in the game.
This is all because I am so bored of being stuck in this 20-25p range.
Yes, nice saying. Not leaving any for the next man would result in a spike and that is not something we want. We need a sustainable rise and SP reflective of true value and in line with peers
Although we are a way (little I hope) of the peers in resepct to sales I dont think their is any potential yet priced it. As lets be honest, sector peers including some more well know fuel cell companies do not return a profit yet.
I think AFC have gone the extra mile with the FC development and could, although be the last to commercialise, be the first to be cash flow and net profit positive.
What did Mr Bond say in his RNS. 'Eventual breakeven'.
Well I guess that is in his sights
Bananaman2
I tend (and really hope your right) to agree with your assessment of AFC and I have been involved here for many years. I’ve enjoyed seeing 60p + and suffered less than 3p. A wise guy (now dead) always offered the advice “leave some for the next man” and that has always served me well.
Quite right! Having been in since 2006, Ive recently adopted the attitude that if it rises by a given amount (I have my own parameters) and its not off the back of a big sale then I sell, confident in the knowledge it will drop back. If it falls back below my average buy price then I buy back in. It achieves three things:
1. I increase my shareholding
2. I make a bit of profit
3. It stops me dying of boredom with this very exasperating share.
Skins, you're right that the only sustainable rise will be on the back of sales. The risk is that buying when sales are confirmed gets you the sustainability without the rise. At the moment I'm taking the counter-risk that this rise will continue for a while based on the confidence flowing from the v. successful fundraise. If sales don't materialise it might be time to take some profits around late August.
I Genuinely do hope you are all right..I’ve just lost my confidence that there are issues to deal with behind the scenes holding this back..because purely on sentiment and what they have achieved so far it should be back up in the 50p.. 60p range again because the climate is now there for it..I sincerely hope it won’t be too long before I’m back with you GLA
MPO818.
I am expecting much more than double from here. This is not a ramp it is based upon the sector, the value of its peers, the IP, the ability for AFC to provide a low cost option to customers proving that green tech does not have to be expensive just because its green.
AFC have spent a long time developing this to not only be as efficient as possible but to ensure that their offering is competitive on price. Although it may not be with conventional power, this is no longer the driver as environmental regulation comes in to play and the hydrogen strategy takes shape. It will present a serious advantage over sector peers that have not managed to get the cost of the systems down to a level and have focused on just getting it out there.
Double from here, I am thinking in multiples of more than 5 to start with. Still wont have the value of its peers even then.
Skins4 I did similar to you selling all for a very nice profit, I then bought all of them back via PRIMARY BID at 16p. I’m going to sit on them now, surely £30m plus is too much just to wasted. When it comes decent news could see them double from here.
Skins4. Do you not think this is creeping up without the RNS. People are aware that this may be a closed period and that raising £31.6m a few weeks ago is just what was needed to gain the traction in the market place.
I can see this above your sell price before news comes of any orders but TBH I have never felt more confident of the prospects here. And I have held these for 10 years this year which is not as long as some LTS'
Definately..but there is years of growth to come ,we are at the very start of the green roll out,my RNS alert is set to pounce as soon as that first order lands on the doorstep..GL
You don't think they might fly as soon as an order is announced?
I held these shares for some seven years but sold a few weeks ago at 24p..the decision wasn’t made lightly but with the firm intention of buying back in only when the first major order is struck and not untill...There are still to many ifs buts and maybe’s here to feel confident..and with AB still to dump anther tranche of shares any time soon I feel it worth waiting for that breakthrough ORDER..GLA