Jupiter / Stu, give it a rest. Both of you are talking rubbish, using 2nd hand information and inaccuracies to back up your beliefs. Jupiter is at least partly correct, but for the wrong reason. Look to the governing body of world football - FIFA - for the definition of a football club. It is detailed in their Club Licensing Regulations which details the process and rules by which football is controlled and governed worldwide. Only a football club can apply for a license, and the license applicant is defined as: "Legal entity full and solely responsible for the football team participating in national and international club competitions that applies for a license". So now we have established what a football club is, we can look at the facts. The legal entity that applied for the license each year was Rangers Football Club plc - the club. The club failed to exit administration and is now, for want of a better term, dead. The Rangers Football Club Ltd - the new Rangers - is a new club. A license applicant and been in existence for 2yrs (almost). For the avoidance of doubt, a license cannot be transferred. Where Stu may be correct? There is no rule which says the SFA can transfer honours from one club to another, but nor is their a rule that says they can't. These are two different clubs, but if the new club legitimately claims the honours of the old then the whole debate becomes pointless. The concept of owning or acquiring history is complete nonsense, but legitimately holding the honours would effectively make this the case. It is not the same club, but it is still "Rangers". Hopefully that helps.
Another 1p AIM stock. Its certainly following the right path. How many of these have we witnessed over the years.
Your obsessed Jupiter. The club exists in tact with a full history. I don't necessarily agree with, but its the reality. To quote your favourite fella - 15 Jun 2012 (I can't believe I am quoting this idiot). Mr Green made the following statement yesterday, “Following the formal decision of the creditors’ meeting at Ibrox Stadium today, the consortium I represent has fulfilled its agreement with the administrators and has completed the acquisition of the business and assets of The Rangers Football Club plc. The transfer of the business and assets to a new company structure has taken effect immediately and the new company is The Rangers Football Club.” - Note 'business and assets'. I almost feel bad for you. He didn't just buy the stadium he bought the business and assets. - You stated RIFC owned the stadium separate from the TRFCL. You were proved wrong by land registry documents and the club accounts announced only last week. Why didn't you check? - You stated the history cannot be bought and sold. I informed you it never was. It was allocated in the same way Airdrie and Leeds United was by the governing body. - You asked for documented evidence the history had been transferred, i provided you the UEFA and SPFL websites. - You were surprised that RIFC did not own Edmiston House and the Albion Car park, I informed you it was common knowledge at least 5 years earlier transferred from RFC Plc to Murray International Holding within the group before the law changed. Please Jupiter check your facts, before launching into print. I am getting bored of continually correcting errors.
The assets specifically excluded the club. Only the stadium was purchased prior to liquidation. Do you think Green would be stupid enough to buy a club with 276 creditors and debts of circa £35M, a £250,000 fine and a potential tax bill of in excess of £100M. Green was a businessman, not a fan. No fan would touch the toxic former club. You live in a world of fantasy. Why do I give credence to Green. He created the phoenix club that you now follow. He has been transparent about what he would do when the CVA failed and the former club/company was cut off from the new corporate vehicles. Even Sevco 5088 is listed as a subsidiary. RFC (1A) is not, as is the case with RFC 2012. It's easy to disseminate if you apply a modicum of critical thought. Your argument is in tatters. I can see it working on a Rangers fanzine, but on this site you were seriously exposed. Give it up Stu. You lost. Be man enough to accept it.
You don’t honestly think Scottish football is better off without them or you wouldn’t be posting on a Rangers share site.
Some good debate
Some good debate today I see. Good points made on both sides of the argument. Overall I think the continuity argument for the football club wins the day though. And I say that as a Celtic fan, to show that fans from other clubs have alternative views. Personally I think Uefa will have more to say on this matter too at some point. Probably when Rangers are back in the Scottish top flight.
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