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The circus trick has been completed over at Microsaic https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/MSYS/conditional-placing-0s767ezlnbh712u.html
Regulator regulator where art thou regulator!
That is that. As staff have been warning on these boards, the people running this have this planning all along. Hopefully everyone will stay far away from Microsaic.
The snake has shed its skin from Deepverge to Microsaic.
@LTbeliever, you say lucky investor getting MW and MSYS for 1 million! I assume there is a heavy hint of sarcasm here considering what we all now know. Modern Water is not even real by all accounts, we do not have any accounts or audit to prove any sales or clients or partners. All staff with any expertise have been lost and Microsaic has been gutted with an embarrassing level of sales in 2023 that we cannot trust. Any client of Modern Water should at this stage be creating processes for alternative solutions because MW is all but dead. Dilution will be into the 80% and 90% and frankly they are just starting a new entity with plenty of spin once again to trick new investors as all the existing investors have now been used up. Microsaic should be bookmarked as a company to learn from and avoid.
@LTBeliever yes Microsaic will go back to the markets as they are out of money, or should I say Turner Pope Investments to get that broker to pillage its user base again for a fund raise. Stay well clear as they will be doing their "special allocations trick".
Just one testimonial of Turner Pope here which is accurate: "I have built a career in financial markets for 35 years, starting as a futures trader on LIFFE in 1987. I was introduced to Turner Pope about 4 years ago by one of their employees, David Diable. He told me to invest in their stock tips & I would do well. It's been utterly catastrophic. They are the worst investment company I have experienced in 35 years. All 3 of their so-called investments have lost significant amounts. The last one (Brandshield) immediately dropped by 50% (I was offered a 'SPECIAL' allocation in a new offering) & has stayed there for 3 years. I have lost about £25,000 with Turner Pope in total so far. (Statement attached of latest investment). This in the biggest bull market in history!! It must be almost impossible to pick a losing stock. They managed to pick 3 big losers out of 3 investments offered to me. Imo they are just a bucket shop. AVOID!!!"
They are far from trustworthy, please read back through my previous posts. Almost every RNS posted is constructed for deception and is largely false. Unfortunately it seems like the regulator is once again asleep at the wheel and the emails to aimregulation@londonstockexchange.com and market.abuse@fca.org.uk have been unanswered so it will need to be escalated.
Sol001 I do know a little bit yes.
The acrylamide detector is a service as such (not a tech and is already being done actually by companies in the UK) which is dependent on European regulation if there is to be any meaningful need for it, acrylamide is in almost everything, cereals, toast, coffee beans the list goes on, but it is an "idea" now and the person leading it has been let go. And the RNS stayed brief on it as it should because there is nothing there for it right now.
proteinID is far beyond the capabilities of a company like Microsaic with little or no expertise to carry this out, would take a decade of commitment and this company is likely to crawl bleeding for years and that would be a success in fact.
Gerry is also NOT out of the way. We will see how this financing is led and how things fall out with Deepverge and Modern Water to learn more.
How do I feel about Bob, I feel sorry for Bob unfortunately due to the years of work ahead unraveling the mess left behind but likely he will not be there for long due to the burn rate.
@sol001 I have written clearly on this topic of the management of Deepverge (or lack of) a number of weeks back and so have plenty of others. All the RNS posts are completely, well made up actually, and because Microsaic has been essentially run by the same people as Deepverge for a number of years now unfortunately the RNS posts here should be taken with a pinch of salt and are in complete coordination with Deepverge. For example all the linkedIn posts you quote like this one https://uk.linkedin.com/posts/microsaic-systems_microsaic-overview-activity-6958738290917138432-hOGZ are written by Louise Doyle, this is Gerard Brandon daughter, pinch of salt required.
@snowboots the dilution should be an issue for you, despite your mental model that you have created in terms of feeling like anything at this juncture is a gain. You have been lied to over and over and your initial investment was not put to any good use whatsoever so deciding that anything from here is good is not a healthy attitude. Microsaic have still, 3 months after an audit should have been released, not released it, they never were even conducting it because the deal with Deepverge for "thin air" was such a sham. As others have said here no public investor should be involved in this company anymore, that is the best advice one can give, as there are many more interesting and legitimate risky options in the market if you are hungry for risk.
@LTBeliever any competent and mentally solid investor or backer in terms of finance at this point would not be diluting people 50% here at this point, they would be diluting everyone 90%+ at this point, because they can. That is how this will go, Microsaic is an empty shell, in the last few weeks the person heading up the magical "acrylamide detector" Alex Chapmann you will notice is missing from the front page of the microsaic.com website because he no longer works there. The acrylamide detector is a service (idea) that was supposed to be used for detecting acrylamide levels in coffee beans if and only if regulation is passed in the EU for this to happen, that is a long ways off and the market for this as a result is completely untested and no this process and service has not been built at all yet.
What makes me nervous for investors is when Microsaic say they need finance and Gerard Brandon is leaving (good thing he is but not so straightforward), Microsaic and Gerry want to buy Modern Water, but it looks bad CEO Nigel Burton of Deepverge selling Modern Water to himself and Gerry at Microsaic correct! So now we just need to see if Gerry leaving is for Nigel to sell Modern Water to Gerard Brandon and remember Gerard Brandon is a massive shareholder in Microsaic. If the finance deal involves Riverfort and Brian Kinane or Sure Valley Ventures and Brian Kinane or any other Brian Kinane finance company or debt company then remember this is Gerard Brandon. So lets just see who provides the finance here but the tunnel is long and very very
Check1 yes everyone has lost their jobs at this point and working hard to start in more rewarding companies thankfully. Still holiday pay due and still loads of stress because of the way it has been handled, just so that executive management can take private control of the entities for themselves. Greed and lack of knowledge of the science.
A few points; Deepverge executive management made the ridiculous decision to higher a top tier marketing agency Media Monks, like most things at the wrong time, maybe a year or more before they were required: https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/962357/deepverge-to-team-up-with-mediamonks-for-digital-roll-out-of-skin-trust-club-962357.html for circa 1.3-1.4 million pounds and that was for them to sell 20,000 kits which cost around 30 pounds per kit to process which is rough £600,000 pounds of processing plus the 1.4 million of marketing, plus some adhoc videos and other things, so £2 million give or take. Thankfully alot of this was not spent because if it had all of this would have come to a head significantly sooner and more harshly.
That was crazy and everyone knew it, so this is why staff tried to avoid using the marketing agency at this time, and ran free promotions. Please remember that without an initial volume of test kits, the AI does not work, and without the AI working, it is not as efficient, and when its not efficient the reporting is much more time consuming. So you must have an initial few thousand kits processed regardless of marketing for STC to work and for us to test everything. Deepverge executive management were selling this as a finished product long before it was.
To answer your question Deepverge or STC did not make 1 million and never did, it was a startup, you are quoting an RNS and as many of us have said all the RNS's are BS unfortunately. Every single one of them. We only really required 2 sequencers and the plan was to open a US lab, and that failed miserably due again to dumb timing and lack of funds. Nothing wrong with the science and tech just execution was sadly laughable.
However STC spend is a fraction of Modern Water, most of the Modern Water deals were loss making, the cost of manufacturing the equipment and what things were being sold for were a loss everytime. RNS after RNS, lies and more lies, deals that did not exist in the future. The list is endless.
anonymouscoward thank you for your clarity. you forgot a few things on this specific "deal"of giving away glanaco for 1 euro.... i will disclose...
t. rat says "don't think anybody is going to be surprised with that update..." however he does not add context unfortunately, so i will. back in march 2022 fionan murray and gerard brandon acquired glanaco https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/dvrg/acquisition-loan-facility-for-global-expansion-eue35leih3kltrs.html for £1.08 million comprising £0.65 million in equity and £0.43 million in cash and you have to remember that tony ryan the md of glanaco ltd is fionan murray's relation. yes they are related and yes fionan murray is still a director of rinocloud. now just over a year later they sell it back to fionan murray relation for 1euro, now i amsure those un-audited accounts are all clean as a whistle but it would be great for someone to take a deep look at them now that the new cfo andrew waters has run away.
so when t. rat says "don't think anybody is going to be surprised with that update..." he is right now, nobody is surprised!!!
also when we speak of family ,and family is important do not get me wrong here, the only people promoting modern water right now is t. rat when he quotes gerard brandon fake news tweets repeatedly and also on social media louise doyle, who you see peddling furiously to keep up with fionan murray and gerard brandon false claims of business as usual and everything going great..... louise doyle is gerard brandon daughter, so the next time you see a social media "claim", a large pinch of salt is required, with that ****tail!
oh and she also posts for microsaic social media. so maybe for the past 6 months we can also just delete all of that from our investment thesis. disgrace is a very large understatement unfortunately.