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Yup tricky if they carry out their manifesto they will be in direct opposition to the EU's fiscal rules and they're not starting from a good base. Should be interesting. Seems every prospective political party makes promises they can't keep. Just like Labour its easy spending other people's money.

Fiscal expansion on the way, populist to form the new government.

Of course corruption is everywhere and it's right and proper that the UK follows the rules but other members can flaunt them. Ok so it's not a first to reject a proposed minister but it's a rare occurrence. We will see how Greece proceeds, yes imminent exit from bailout but has to borrow to pay the interest. Incedently after Germany has plundered all the assets for a knockdown price it appears they are not prepared to help them without the backing of the IMF. If the EU is so sound why do they have to have the backing of the international community? Because they know its still a basket case.

None of em were exactly under pressure tricky all strolling around like the proverbial lobey dosser, don't think many of em would survive in the private sector. Most were full of their own ****ing importance, but they all knew how to fill out an expense form. That's politicians for you.

jayfax. You may think it's all roses and the EU is holier than thou, if you believe the EU is not corrupt then I guess that sums up your own moral attitude. It's rotten to the core, you can read em like a book. Nobody expected Mattarella to reject Savona its the first time ever, and you expected it? Escalating worries that Italians may be poised to take a tougher stand against the euro prompted a round of accusations and finger-pointing among EU officials, including a rare admonishment by Donald Tusk, the European council president, who said EU institutions needed to show �respect to voters� in Italy. �We are there to serve them, not to lecture them,� Tusk said after the German budget commissioner, G�nther Oettinger, had suggested the market turmoil in Italy would show voters the dangers of supporting populists. They soon explained that.

Channel 4 tonight, inside the EU, for you doubters.

So what's it to be? New elections before the August shutdown Elections next autumn Current coalition proceeds with another title for the economy minister President installs a stopgap pm New stopgap pm gets no parliamentary support Return to the status quo. Preferred option just like last time install a yes man who will tow the EU line and hope it all goes away i.e. hold new elections sometime in the distant future when they hope there is a better chance of a more moderate government being elected. Problem for the President (and the EU) is the longer this drags support for both coalition parties appears to be growing. The IPSOS poll showed support for the League's would be coalition partner, the 5Star Movement at 32.6% implying a more comfortable majority if the pair were to try to govern again. Now according to jayfax you must have over 50% to have a majority, he also says Italy needs a compromise and sensible plausible government. No mention of a democratically elected one then, but he is pro EU, so that's all right then.

You're right A1 the grass is always greener but very few know where, but everyone knows where later.

Oh yeah, with the buybacks in full swing and all the extra divvy monies slopping around just waiting to be reinvested the SP always advances around this time. Seems there are bigger forces at work.

There is one thing we haven't been told about the buybacks and that is the costs. You can be sure it's 'top dollar' or Lloy would have told us. They've been at it a while now, wonder when the the break even is, if you could quantify it.

Old news DCB it's probably been revised up already...... Keep up.

Watch the vote in Spain on Friday Rajoy's on a sticky wicket, more corruption, they get found out in the end. Race to the bottom then snige, we've been here before.

RBS hasn't taken the news too well, nearly 4% under.

I expect this BB will be awash with Lloy comments this week and next about who's been paid, how quick, how much etc. Guess that's why we contribute here and what it's for really.

There's nothing wrong in pointing out the faults of an organisation that you want to leave, in fact it should be encouraged, pity really that politicians don't or I believe can't continually comment on the demise and failings of other countries. Don't expect any contributions any time soon Mr Corbyn best regards Roman, lol.

I hear Donegal want a second referendum! That's akin to the remainers wanting a second vote, are you listening DCB?

'destruction of the mining communities' shrewd move as it turned out don't you think, trouble is there are those in the mining communities who are still spitting feathers about losing that one. The only person to gain from it was Scargill, he bought a big residence and retired. Talking to a miner at the time he told me there is no way I would send my son down the pits. As it all transpired he would not have to now as coal consumption has plummeted here.

''Five Star and la Lega are inexperienced minorities at opposite extremes''. Now just to correct you Five Star and la Lega are not minorities in case you are not aware 5star received 32.2% Five Star Movement .... 32.22% Democratic Party.......... 18.9% Lega............................. 17.69% Forza Italia.................... 13.94% Fratelli d'Italia................ 4.35% Free and Equal................3.38% Luigi Di Maio and Matteo Salvini were once outsiders in Italian politics. They have now become the mainstream. Minorities, they are not. ''The populists may gain from all of this in the end, but none of the players involved, not even Savona, says they want to leave the Euro''. 5 star has previously stated they would want a referendum on leaving the euro but have since revised this. Don't believe everything you cut and paste jayfax. If I have made so many incorrect verifiable facts just list three of them.

jayfax. No noise from the ignorant remain brigade then? You lot just don't get it, one day the penny will drop and you will admit it to yourselves( obviously not on here) that what the country voted for was indeed the right course of action. Now we know we have not got the ideal setup here but that's not the point. The point is that while we appear to be experiencing some difficulties it is nothing compared to what is unfolding throughout the eurozone. It is this slowly evolving car crash that is the EU that we are trying to escape from. Nobody said it would be easy but it sure will be worth it in the end. Your grandchildren and great grandchildren will be raising a glass or two to thank us for our foresight in delivering a Brexit for the UK, and there won't be a remoaner in sight. Another thing you must get your facts right before posting as fact.

It's a complete farce, but that's Italian politics for you, come to think about it that sums up the EU as well. I guess the Italian president was told by, no ordered, by Brussels to reject the proposed finance minister. They'll be putting their own PM in there again just like before, that's democracy EU style.