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Manifesto agree.

People do not realise & the Govt have not stated that the general public are going to be in a protracted period of testing because theses are generation 1 vaccines. The appearance is being being given by rara press that its one jab & I'm off to the pub.

Poor poor nanny state communication from the outset. I said back in May there would be more lock downs. Be honest with the public & more will accept timelines what is comming.

The far east societies wear masks out of common courtesy to protect others from being infected from flus, colds etc. Here we are one step away from the gung ho USA mavericks he-man nonesense.

Just pathetic I'm not wearing a mask thinking, so instead I will take a chance on a vaccine that has only been injected for 5 months. Why has ORPH had its facilities booked up for 18 months to test amongst other things Covid vaccines.

More than happy to have a vaccine once he m/t side effects are known i.e. 12 to 18 months.

Well said Newtrade. Did an online quiz last night re friends & 30% were no 50% yes & 20% undecided.

These are 1st gen vaccines rushed through with not a jot of evidence as to M/T effects. 2nd gen are now being developed along more normal timelines that tells you everything.

If 60% of the population want to take these then fine but sorry I want more information independent of Govt bodies as to the safety of pumping something into you that has been used for 5 months.

My final point as to vaccines

Lookup legals claims on the swine flu vaccines. Don'e get me wrong great news here but there is a great deal of rara going on in mainstream media & desperate Govts worldwide. All back to normal by March - I hope so..................

People are lazy they want one jab & I'm off to the boozer or the Costa Blanca. What they do not realise is that they will have to be tested multiple times to see if there is an antibody response. Great news but all these companies are already in initial phases of developing 2nd gen on a longer time frame = which tells you something about the rushed nature of 1st gen.

MM's pricking around end of - its the AIM.

90% or 70%. Seems the latter.

Totally agree. This si the issue L/T side effects based on a quick fix immunity for 3 to months. Flu jabs been with us for 40 years & are tweaked each year. Most of these have been pumped in for 5 months max.

I would take the 20% swings to start considering the whacky movements we have had.

Dual role out - like many I have had my flu jab 6 weeks ago.

My question is is what is what the uptake is going to be? Its the "trust us" its the LT safe piece that is the most worrying and mainstream press (fronted by the Beeb)on the whole rara vaccine 1 or 2 jabs & your fixed. what are the LT side effects never mind 5 months. Flu vaccines have been around for 40 years & just well tweaked.

everyone - well those who want to see a positive upswing.

As for doomsayers http://reut.rs/2UIHYVG

".................. if mask use reached 95% lockdowns would be avoidable" Statement from WHO

Sorry to say but from experience some Directors Exec or Non Exec add really not much value to the game, sometimes its just going through the motions particularly - NEDS tick box because you have to have one & the person is dumped onto the business.

in Europe avoidable, vaccines 'not a silver bullet': WHO Europe http://reut.rs/2UIHYVG

".................. if mask use reached 95% lockdowns wold be avoidable" Statement from WHO

JH - because the SP has been controlled since c90p pretty simple.

I think we will see the SP yoyo as the shorters take a bow. They like an orderly exit unless something impacts the business +ve or -ve.

I a have already responded earlier. If they licence to manufacture to X (eg Volz for EU), Volz will have the distribution capabilities and access to markets whether wholesalers (Govt or Private). All RMS (Gareth) have to do is to get more of these deals

Your reality check is that many many people will not be guinea pigs in taking 1st generation vaccines. I suggest all research ORPH (see RNS this am), pfizer etc are already starting to develop gen2 & gen 3 will come but gen2 & 3 will take 3 to 5 years because they will be tested per normal in serial process not fast track parallel. ORPH x2 facilities are bookerd put for 18 months

All hype on Govt orders are pre-orders.

Not if you license production to manufacturers who can adapt their production technique & Volz can.

To many are getting carried away if you look across the board everything is be-calmed.

There appears to be hardly any action across the board Are the MM's having a zoom call to decide what to do next? Even with BBC doing their vaccine rara its appears AZ a damp squib at the mo.

Must be highly disappointing for the MMs as they were prepped to induce more volatility - kerching.

Its an update its not even Ph3 high level results. They have done this because of Pfizer & Moderna & because UK govt have pre-ordered most of their doses from them.

I am guessing this is still a couple of weeks away.