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As a long term holder, I have heard the 'well paid CE's' outline how they are winning many contracts but not much about cost of winning them or patential profits from them.
After the recent announcement that they have won a £200k contract, the Share Price doubled. Impact should have been a few % rise of sp based on sentiment more than financials.
Pump and dump merchants out in force.
Share price will continue its drop now, down to 5p untill some quantifiable projections are issued.
I mirror the concerns expressed of the costs involved in winning contracts. Significantly more than the cash available I fear.
My reseearch gives number of Employees as 56.
56 or 35 makes no significant impact.
Say £200/year income per employee, thats c.£10k per annum!!!! Hardly earth shattering.
Ha Ha.
Thats what happens when you are retired. Weekdays, weekends and bank holidays all blend into one! I of course meant when markets next open.
or stabilised sp, there is some hope of sp recovery. However, I fear by close tomorrow the sp will be back to 6p, unless we have some positive news.
Seen many 1-2 days rises in sp since the big drop of 27th Sept 2020. Always followed by a drop back to or below the start point of the rise.
If tomorrow brings continued rise o
Option price was 7.25p!
Agree.
But only a reward if the sp rises to above the option price.
Sounds promising, but the CEO's have always been able to 'talk the talk'. I have heard similar statements over the past few years about how unique their products are, but until the revenues start rising I will not get too upbeat. I have been burnt too many times since Nov 27th 20!!!!
But!
Each of the CEO's hold well over 2M shares each.
At 5p that is only £100k - if they could sell them?
At a not unreasonable £2 sp in a few years, thats £4M+.
Why not earn £500k a year, then bow out with £4M, rather than run it into liquidation?
A thought.
Perhaps good news has been held back until share options have been granted to the staff.
Say each member of staff is awarded an average of 100k share options at 14p, and in 2 years time shares are rise to say 64p+. Thats a £50k+ incentive for staff to both stay and remain focused.
Probably clutching at straws.
Stew.
If revenue is c. £40m and Market Capitalisation/sales is in range 1-2 (not unreasonable for a growth company?) the sp ought to be 3 to 6 times the current value.
ie 40p to 80p.
Even if revenue comes in at say £26m the sp ought to be in range 25p to 50p.
Either there is bad news on the way or the markets really have it in for loopup (and its bod).
Should soon find out which it is.
I believe the prevailing ask and bid prices are used to determine whether a sell or buy is posted. It is not based on the actual transaction type. Not sure where the mm's fit into this, but suspect they are involved sonewhere?
I bought an additional 50k shares today just before close at 4.16p - it was recorded as a sell.
Recently many of my buys on AIM have been recorded as sells.
Is this just the 'nature of the beast' or is it something more sinister. Be interested to know if any other itx buys today came up as sells.
Stew, I took the plunge for a further 25k at 17.44 hoping the sp has finally bottomed out.
I have done similar many times over the last year at what I thought was the low point but the sp just continued its never-ending fall, so I can understand your reluctance, but as Del boy would say "He who dares wins". Probably not the best characture to take financial advice from?
Please let 17.44 be the low point.
Same state. Over-invested and underwater big time. Been full of hope of recovery since the bottom fell out on Nov 27th 20. and made further investments thinking bottom had been reached - foolish.
But mindfull of CE drawings (sal + bonus) of over £500k eaxh in 2020 and sal of c. £250k each in 2019 both seem to be doing nicely regardless of Company success.
However each own 2.6m shares. Value in mid 2019 was £6.5m - value now around £0.5m!!!
Poor Nico Goulty, on the BofD has 7m shares!
So there must be pressure to improve share price value, but another couple of years and the CE's will have feathered their nest regardless, so either way they win.
I have had significant investments in Loopup, taken out over the past 2 years, so am now seeing large paper losses.
I would like to take some comfort from the stated £50m and growing revenue, but have been disappointed too many times over the years to do so.
Until £50m is supported by the fundamentals, my expectations will remain low.
My main driver for investment was the CV's of the joint CE's - probably misguided?
Re management buy out.
Majority of ii's and private investors paid average of anything from £1 to £4 for their shares. Assume a majority of these will accept say £2 for their shares then to buy the 70 million + shares not currently held by the management will require £140M from sonewhere?
So not sure a management buy out is viable.
And a £58 sale drops the sp to 17.1p.
Almost certainly manipulation, by whom and to what end I wait to see, but I will be holding on to my shares to the bitter end for either to a very significant loss or gain?
Very good read, also gave me some comfort, as
I will be holding to the bitter end!
Thanks.