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Not sure which one of those it is, if any. But very strange pattern today. Let's hope it is a serious trend change.

Here is the performance over various time periods. Absolutely pathetic. FO needs to be sacked and replaced ASAP as this is totally unacceptable. 1 week (6.49%) 1 month (9%) 3 months (8.96%) 6 months (26.05%) 1 year (29.98%) 2 years (23.39%) 3 years (18.44%)

All, Does anyone take any note of the broker recommendations etc? I would never rely of one as they tend not to be wholly independent. And given the disconnect between the actual SP and the target SP spouted by the brokers, how can they be taken seriously? So this begs the question - What is the purpose of them and who uses them?

You don't speak for me either. Whilst there are quite a few issues that concern investors, I've not said nor implied that the company is lying to us nor that it will imminently go bust.

Smoking Joe, Great post and sums up the unknowns very well.

I have had a discussion with Head of IR. He said very little. Rattled of typical IR bull.

Before you judge me too harshly, it is the majority of my pension fund built up over 30 years. I can't actually get my hands on it yet. I forgot the bit about diversification of portfolio.

Andy, Low 40s but 10,000 shares. Stupid and very Ouch!!

Mulder, You can keep repeating this data but this is already in the public domain. At the end of the day big investors appear to be avoiding this stock like the plague. They have their reasons but I suspect that these include very high debt, expensive past acquisitions, lack of dividends, no funds for expansion, no longer seen as a growth stock etc. I'm playing devils advocate here as there are 2 sides to every story. I really want this to rise but despite all of the 'good news' in the Q3 results, investors are still staying away. Why are they doing this? They must see more bad things than good things. FO has to take responsibility for destroying shareholder value but he appears to be doing little. The only people making money here are the SHP BoD as their packages are ridiculous and not wholly linked to the appalling share performance. I have a horrible feeling that we could be visiting new lows before long but I hope I am way off. Off course, sentiment could change very quickly too and this could be in the 40s before you blink. Would love this to happen. Would be happy to see an offer in the low 40s from someone. In fact, would love to see an new investor/institution take or increase a significant stake. As you can tell, I have no idea what I am talking about .............;-)

Where-is-my, No I'm no shorter. I would not know how to. I am negative because I'm struggling to find too many positives with SHP. It easy for everyone to say how under-valued it is but market forces tell us a very different story. You are right, I could dump my holding but I hate crystalling such huge losses. I live in hope that this recovers but I don't see that happening any time soon.

Mulder, Sorry, I can't agree with you. Lack of Dirs buying and general unrest does not mean that 'it is likely that M&A discussions are going on'. There might be so,me but it is extremely wishful thinking to assume this is likely. Don't get me wrong, I would love that to be the case but I do not see anyone going for SHP until after the new US tax rules are introduced (whenever that is!!). I would be surprised to see much upside in the SP before the Feb/March when the FY results are out. Not sure if the spin off plans will bring much joy either.

Presumably this is just speculation/wishful thinking?

WIM, No I didn't sell in the end. Wish I had and then I could have bought in a bit lower. Who knows where it will go from here. Hoping for a bid but can't see anything soon as the US needs to sort out its tax reform so the big Pharmas know where they stand. Maybe 2018 will be Shire's year.

You can't really. Mr notgreedy is closer to the mark I suspect.

Whilst the BoD may not have done anything individually damaging, they have to take responsibility. SP has tanked for 6 months against a rising market. Heads must roll surely? Now down to low 34s. Disgraceful.

Surprise, surprise, now down 60p... Unbelievable

Very little movement. Earlier losses eroded and it did mostly rise but seems to have settled down to flat. Could easily change later though. No huge spike up as predicted by one or 2. I didn't sell yesterday after all but not sure if that was a good decision or not.

It hit 5021 on 18th May too. Only 5 months ago.

I would be amazed if that happened. I just cannot see it. Would love to see but it isn't going to happen. Happy to see you prove me wrong mind.

I stick by my assessment that the results will be disappointing. I would love to be wrong but I think there has been some leakage of information, hence the recent slide before the results. Might have to sell my holding today.