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It's an hilarious chatter group that swings from hysteria to despair. The current ostrich position is "it'll rise like the sun" . What happens when like the BT rubbish the "kings new clothes don't appear and all of these acquisitions fail to pay off in a diminishing market. Remember ,remember the divi in November paid out of debt but for how long.
I see now that the focus is on divi and theories about why this rubbish is finally finding its level. Not long ago the theories were for and the huge benefits synergies were going to bring. Still waiting.
There's no chaos,it's s a possible. divi trap now and one of the underperforming shares is finding it's level. I feel for the chasers who have chased this down buying at what they perceive as the new bottom. Christ alone knows how much imodium is bought for those who bought north of 180.
Is this share a divi trap as someone on another board suggests? CNA is at 8.38% yield!!! Who would bet that the sp will not erode that in real terms over the next 18 months? Saga looking too good on yield as well with costs waiting to bite in the coming years.
I hope that people do make dosh but it seems a big ask currently on fundamentals but not sentiment. What happens if Brexit actually drives sterling higher when all the lights don't go out, after all we buy far more from the EU than sell to it and foreign earnings aren't as good coming back.
What's better than one loss making company? Two loss making companies merging and the perpetually fake optimists pretending they are buying. If this does rise it will be like the BT phoenix from 201 on thin air.
True about the 7% for now, but at least with a deposit account you would have the capital albeit less inflation.
The dividend is all that keeps this and BT and few others afloat.If credit can't keep the bills paid by punters what happens then.
The term "too big to fail" always springs to mind. This outfit is too big to manage effectively.
It's a buy to keep subsidising those dividends from capital. Does anyone really smile when they are collecting those dividends when they had paid for them from their own share price decline.
What's happened to the free cash flow and synergies. LoL.
No one really believes that the Motley Fool has anything to do with the decline or that any private investor here has the slightest influence on the share price do they.
Even if it does rise what will keep it there. Are people investing for the hope that in years to come this will come good after all it's a mature company not some recent start up.
Too big with too many fingers in too few profitable pies that can't sustain the unprofitable ones.
Vodafone, CK Hutch mull merger for loss making Australia unit. Genius. Combine two loss making telecoms into one bigger loss making telecoms outfit. The aussies could smell the vodafone rat decaying.
This really is a dog sh*t share. It's like vodafone with a divi that is paid for by the declining share price.
A piece of crap like RBS when it did the five card trick of the share swap to dilute the holding even more is trading at more than 4 times lloyds.
I wonder if this could go to 50 at some point and remain a penny share for years and years to come.
176 may well be deemed a high point in this dreadful share. It has sod all to sustain anything, the divi, growth or future prospects.
I guess that given the underlying fundamentals it is a share that holders are willing to subsidise with capital what they get back with divis for now.
Is it Turkey really or simply the fundamentals of the declining business model. The divi looks incredible but all that glitters is not gold. Let's see in 6 months if this is closer to 135 or 225 and why. There 's a few of these ludicrously high divi stocks now like saga, CNA to name two.