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The ironic thing is there is far more justification for renationalising rail and utilities, both are far more essential services than letters mail and both are seeing ever increasing demand from users and consumers.
Where as letters mail is becoming an ever more anachronistic, unnecessary and irrelevant entity.
Perhaps Labour will also be looking to reintroduce Street Lamp lighters and night soil carters?
Derek - Please stop continually embarrassing yourself with your ever more desperate and delusional attempts to justify the USO remaining in place in its current form, it's truly cringeworthy.
The only posties who are really opposed to any reduction in the USO are the types who come on here... vociferous old timers, workshy Marxist union agitators.
They forlornly cling on to the delusion that RM can somehow revert back to being a "public service" and they can once again enjoy all their cushy little numbers and Spanish practices and be sat at home with their feet up at 10am whilst getting paid until 2pm.
I hate to break it to Broch and Derek and friends but those days are never coming back.
Well that was entirely as expected...
Whining members of the public with their exaggerated tails of woe, soon to be seen in the Daily Mail putting on their best sad face whilst pointing at their letterbox.
Vested interests in the form of a representative from some greeting card manufacturer association who seems to think RM should maintain a loss making network just so that their increasingly meaningless and irrelevant greeting cards industry can limp on.
Vested interest union leaders who don't want their membership subs gravy train to be reduced.
At least the final contributor the postie spoke a lot of sense and acknowledged that letter volumes have massively declined and its completely unfeasible to retain the current level of USO.
isleworth - the reason many of the most workshy and marxist old timers such as dear old broch are ****ting themselves at the prospect of a reduced uso is because the 6 day uso is the only tenet of rm remaining a "public service" along with all the inefficiency, cushy little numbers and spanish practices that come with it.
As ever, all Dave is worried about is anything that will result in a reduction in CWU membership levels and the gravy train that is union subs they receive.
Such a shame that so many posties can't see that the CWU is just a self serving entity, failing to act in the best interests of its membership or the business that provides them with their livelihood.
so i wonder what our resident marxists are planning on spending their £500 bonus on?
ah that's right, none of them will be getting it, because even with a decent little bung like that on offer they still can't find it within themselves to produce anything like a reasonable work ethic, not even temporarily for a couple of weeks to qualify for it before reverting back to being workshy **** takers.
no doubt they'll all be responding by parroting the union line that it was "never achievable"... which i suppose is true in a way, it was never achievable with a workforce largely made up of entitled, belligerent old timers who have never accepted the concept of doing a full day's work for their pay
Hound dog - Why should it take years to roll out lockers? They already exist and can be bought immediately and RM already have thousands of their own premises (DO's and MC's) across the UK where they can install them.
Time2Kill - Well obviously the "vast majority" of RM parcels are currently delivered to customers... because those customers have no alternate option. Once lockers are introduced the customer will then have that option.
As for your muddled thinking that there woild be no job losses as the postie still has to deliver to the locker... how long will it take a postie to go and put 30 parcels in a locker compared to how long it would take to deliver them to 30 separate residential addresses?
Isleworth- My efforts certainly felt unappreciated when it came to Christmas time, whilst I'd be lucky to get £30-£40 in Christmas tips my colleague who promotes his good deeds all over Facebook (whilst leaving 1/4 of his customer's mail in the frame every day) would get £400-£500!
oli - i had a colleague similar to your regular postie, i actually provided exactly the same level of service as him if not more so in terms of being helpful and cooperative towards customers and doing little favours here and there to ensure the people received their items. in fact i made more of an effort as i always stayed out and completed, often going over my time, where as the other guy would regularly leave mail and packets behind claiming he "couldn't complete"
the difference is my efforts went almost entirely unappreciated and unrecognised because i wasn't a master of self promotion and a smug snivelling kiss **** plastering my good deeds all over facebook.
The usual whining boomer pensioner Daily Mail sad face brigade.
It always used to amaze me how pensioners would know exactly what day their monthly or quarterly utility bill or bank statement was due and would give me the third degree if I didn't have it for them.
Get a life you sad old f***ers.
The usual whining boomer pensioner Daily Mail sad face brigade.
It always used to amaze me how pensioners would know exactly what day their monthly or quarterly utility bill or bank statement was due and would give me the third degree if I didn't have it for them.
Get a life you sad old f***ers.
Moneyshark - Don't worry I fully realise the real agenda of those posties who come on here attempting to defend the USO.
Keeping the USO in place in its current format is the only hope they have of RM potentially reverting back to be the "public service" it once was, along with all inefficiency, cushy little numbers and Spanish work practices that came with it.
I just enjoy teasing them.
Broch - I'm not sure how of why you consider France and Germany to be "better comparisons" for one thing La Poste is still under public ownership, complete with all the inefficiency and poor work ethic subsidised by hard working tax payers that come with it (something I realise you're still desperately clinging on to the hope for with regards to RM) and Deutsche Post is a behemoth of a commercial entity with many different aspects to its business encompassing all manner of logistics and beyond.
Neither are comparable to RM for quite different reasons.
RG Postie - Can you show evidence to prove that every one of those other postal operators are obligated to deliver to EVERY household 5 days a week?
Even if they are delivering 5 days a week it doesn't mean they're having to deliver to every address 5 days a week... there's a big difference between the two scenarios
Compared to all other postal operators throughout Europe RM is still by some way the cheapest for delivering a letter, and no other postal service has such an onerous obligation to deliver 6 days a week to every address for the same price, most others deliver no more than 3 days a week.
What exactly is it about the service that you deem to be so "crappy"?