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'' over 5% extra shares this year to help future compound growth ''

plus an improved percentage ownership on top, courtesy of the buyback for cancellation.

Good luck with the longer term

''similar to some companies operating DRIP schemes for shareholders''

should read 'SCRIP' - got distracted with the drip rns

Oh dear - more complaints from the usual suspects?

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/LLOY/directorpdmr-shareholding-9b72bawx1h0snv8.html

''could you transfer it into a SIPP''

good idea- some say that the likes of LBG is being undervalued by the market

It looks like people giving advice/suggestions on a not very clear post (not clear to me anyway)

GB

''yet you support the issuing of more.''

pathetic GB

most normal people would be happy for employees to be able to save money to purchase shares in the business of their workplace giving a possibility to make a bit of profit to supplement their salary.

Also paying some salary in shares instead of cash is similar to some companies operating DRIP schemes for shareholders

BLB

Always helps a bit when investing in the likes of Apple,Amazon,Bats and cls at the right time, in addition to recognising past arbitrage opportunities.

keep counting your pennies

Dam

''1. The capital destruction becomes so great the manager puts his hands up and says "oops, we need to reset the dividend".

The capital value has fallen from about 380p per share to the current about 226p per share.

HFEL have just increased the dividend.

As an example the capital value (index) of the Hang Seng has fakken from about 30.600 to the current about 18,200.

Are you suggesting that the companies that make up the Hang Seng are making capital returns disguised as dividends?

2. The Asia Pac markets recover strongly, the manager gets away with it, and says "phew".

An excuse for claims of capital returns not having to be proven

3. The manager makes some excellent stock picks that boost the capital value of the trust, and says "phew".

An excuse for claims of capital returns not having to be proven

Dt

100 minus 50 = 50

Dt

''Corporate insolvencies ''

there will have been hundreds of thousands of start up businesses in 2023

Dt

''I recall''

Have you ever considered that you may have a recollection problem.

DT

08 Sep 2020 19:47

DOW not looking good.

09 Sep 2020 01:33

"will Lloyds exist then?"

No.

29 Sep 2020 23:57

I think we will see negative interest rates this side of xmas, Dec at the latest

Average Lloyds bank employee salary is probably only about £24,000 pa and yet you still get people moaning about staff being given the opportunity to save money each month to purchase shares at a set price. To those moaners - have a good look at yourself in the mirror.

A plumber would earn a lot more

Flec

''there's nothing stopping them throwing in additional listings like they did during covid''

Maybe yourself and others would prefer for Lloyds not to make good profits.

Personally I prefer the bank to make excellent profits.

https://www.investments.lloydsbank.com/markets-and-commentary/market-news/article/?id=7754296&type=bsm

Flec

''there's nothing stopping them throwing in additional listings like they did during covid''

Maybe yourself and others would prefer for Lloyds not to make good profits.

BLB

don't know why you bother

blb

''YOU WERE INVESTING IN ISAs before they were even invented ''

totally embarrassing for you

BLB

28 Oct 2021 16:29

''LTI,You talk more crap and believe your own crazy predictions even predicting a buy back in March lol nutter''

There has been two since

etc etc

Flec

''so you can knock 525,000,000 shares off''

that is a big drop from 1.3 Billion to 775 million, but still a lot more than the average given as remuneration each year over the last 13 years.

People should stop going on about staff remuneration in the form of shares instead of cash. Some stocks give the option to investors of having shares instead of cash.

The BOD decide a proposed final dividend and share buyback level that needs approval by shareholders.

Brix

''100% cash is my intention''

enjoy

Flec

''Well what they're doing isn't helping the share price is it?''

The BOD do not determine the valuation that the market puts on Lloyds

''in the meantime they're Block listing over 1.3 Billion shares a year for the deferred bonus scheme and share incentive plan''

I am not aware that 1.3 Billion shares are being created each year as part of employee remuneration on top of any that staff may purchase via SAYE schemes . That would come to a huge amount each year - you may need a re think..

''pre covid investors are receiving a debased dividend for no other reason than that's what the board decided to do.''

I think you will find that it is the BOD who decide the running of the bank. They propose a final dividend and buyback policy to shareholders, who overwhelmingly voted for both.

'' you have your view and others have theirs, personally I would have rather received more in dividends than Buybacks''

Shareholders overwhelming voted for their proposals.

''They didn't have to debase the dividend post covid''

They didn't have to propose any dividend payment.

Thinking it was because

Brix

''4 ish months away that is , exactly why i've gone cash and only holding 2 stock .''

I have heard it all now - gone mainly to cash because of the prospect of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. There was me thinking it was being you wanted the excitement of seeing the cash value increase by 3% after tax in a years time.

Strange that there was no mention of that on 7 Sep 2023 16:13 when you were worried about another banking crash or another Covid.

I think with your new extra worry, you may consider being 100% cash.